cirrostratus Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 What is a “dual lock fastener” on the panels that jaeger advertises? Is it a Velcro system, or some clips that hook onto the tubes or? If you have this and can take pictures, would greatly appreciate it! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
ShuRugal Posted December 3, 2021 Report Posted December 3, 2021 Probably this stuff: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/dual-lock-reclosable-fasteners-us/Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk 3 Quote
cirrostratus Posted December 3, 2021 Author Report Posted December 3, 2021 Probably this stuff: https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/dual-lock-reclosable-fasteners-us/Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkVery cool! Thank You!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 What is a “dual lock fastener” on the panels that jaeger advertises? Is it a Velcro system, or some clips that hook onto the tubes or? If you have this and can take pictures, would greatly appreciate it! Sent from my iPad using TapatalkIt is the 3M stuff. Bruce uses it to attach side panels in place of screws. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
tmo Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 See this: Also see this post by GEE-BEE Aeroproducts: it has info on the proper order of things (male on airframe, female on removable part). We've been dealing with this stuff for the past 3 months it seems. 1 Quote
M20F-1968 Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Marauder said: It is the 3M stuff. Bruce uses it to attach side panels in place of screws. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro What does he use for adhesives? John Breda Quote
M20F-1968 Posted December 4, 2021 Report Posted December 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnZ said: IIRC it has the 3M VHB on the back, but when being installed, there are little tabs on the ends of the strips where it gets zip tied to the tube. .I do not understand "IIRC it has the 3M VHB" Please clarify. John Breda Quote
cirrostratus Posted December 4, 2021 Author Report Posted December 4, 2021 IIRC it has the 3M VHB on the back, but when being installed, there are little tabs on the ends of the strips where it gets zip tied to the tube. So it’s a flat plastic strip that gets zip tied to the tube and the dual lock fastener is applied to the strip? So where do the flat strips come from?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 Bruce is originally from Minnesota. Seemed like I ordered a lot of 3M stuff to do my interior I think the white pieces were trimmed pieces of his side panels. The 3M “Velcro” he used needs to be flat to get the best adherence to the counter piece of the sidewall. The wider white pieces allowed the full Velcro to lay flat on it. He then used a double sided 3M tape to stick it on the tubing and then tie wraps to ensure it doesn’t pull off if you remove the side panels. I will say one thing. The screw-less approach is the way to go. My side panels have been off numerous times since they were installed for the CiES sender install, new avionics and just to check on the condition of the tubing. And oh yeah, when I replaced all of the RG-58 with RG-400. Here is another picture of them attached. What Bruce did to make sure the strips lined up correctly was to leave the side panel piece on the tubing and remove the covering tape once he had the fit correct. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
cirrostratus Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Posted December 5, 2021 Bruce is originally from Minnesota. Seemed like I ordered a lot of 3M stuff to do my interior I think the white pieces were trimmed pieces of his side panels. The 3M “Velcro” he used needs to be flat to get the best adherence to the counter piece of the sidewall. The wider white pieces allowed the full Velcro to lay flat on it. He then used a double sided 3M tape to stick it on the tubing and then tie wraps to ensure it doesn’t pull off if you remove the side panels. I will say one thing. The screw-less approach is the way to go. My side panels have been off numerous times since they were installed for the CiES sender install, new avionics and just to check on the condition of the tubing. And oh yeah, when I replaced all of the RG-58 with RG-400. Here is another picture of them attached. What Bruce did to make sure the strips lined up correctly was to leave the side panel piece on the tubing and remove the covering tape once he had the fit correct. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProThank You! Very smart and agree, screw-less is the way to go!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
cirrostratus Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Posted December 12, 2021 Designed and 3D printed some holders. Has 3M VSB in the middle to attach to the frame, the backside has dual lock and zip ties embedded for extra strength.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Quote
tmo Posted December 12, 2021 Report Posted December 12, 2021 Share a STL, pretty please with some velcro on top? 1 Quote
Marauder Posted December 14, 2021 Report Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:03 PM, cirrostratus said: Designed and 3D printed some holders. Has 3M VSB in the middle to attach to the frame, the backside has dual lock and zip ties embedded for extra strength. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Do you know how much it protrudes from the roll cage when it is mounted? Bruce's way of doing is only about an 1/8" thickness. Quote
cirrostratus Posted December 20, 2021 Author Report Posted December 20, 2021 Do you know how much it protrudes from the roll cage when it is mounted? Bruce's way of doing is only about an 1/8" thickness. It protrudes about 5mm so it’s a bit thicker at the roll cage than Bruce's way. Will have to see if the extra 2mm makes a difference.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
carusoam Posted December 20, 2021 Report Posted December 20, 2021 Nice example of a very usable 3D printed part! Nice work cs! Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
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