Jetrn Posted September 29, 2021 Report Posted September 29, 2021 For those who have a G500 installed was the annunciator panel incorporated into the G500? Discussing with my IA who does a lot of experimental avionics installs about acquiring used components of a g500 system and doing a self install with his over sight. Current avionics: ki 256, ki 525a, kfc 150, k297 (alt/vs), gma 35, gtn 750. gns 430w, gdl 88, gtx 330es, jpi 900, flight stream 210. For the g500, I am a little confused as to whether or not I need a gad43 to drive the kfc150. I am considering either a gtx345 in panel or remote or a gnc 375. I would also like to replace the gns430w with either gnc 355 or 375. We were discussing a dynon system he had just put into an RV 9, the problem as everyone knows dynon is struggling moving forward with the autopilot certification. Your thoughts and insight would be greatly appreciated as I begin to look into a upgrade pathway. Quote
carusoam Posted September 30, 2021 Report Posted September 30, 2021 Dynon isn’t struggling… that would be BK… Dynon just hasn’t gotten Mooneys into their schedule yet… Is there a weekly call to Dynon going on from MSers that are waiting? What would the AP send to the Annunciator panel? Usually, the GPS has annunciators mounted separately on the instrument blinking and updating as way points come and go… PP thoughts only… best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Stanton R Posted September 30, 2021 Report Posted September 30, 2021 If you want get rid of the KI256 you need the Gad 43. If you want to also get rid of the K297 you would need the GAD 43E. If you replace the KI 256 with a GAD 43 you will need to recalibrate the KFC 150. You will need a back up G5 or GI 275 if you remove the KI256. You really don't gain anything by adding the GTX 345. From personal experience I would keep your current avionics and change to the GFC500 autopilot. I have never flown with a better GA autopilot. On my M20C first 2 hour test flight with a GFC500, I did 6 GPS low approaches ( most with course reversals) and never touched the flight controls except for the takeoff and landing. 1 Quote
Stanton R Posted September 30, 2021 Report Posted September 30, 2021 9 hours ago, carusoam said: Dynon isn’t struggling… that would be BK… Dynon just hasn’t gotten Mooneys into their schedule yet… I am going to say BK and Dynon are struggling to get autopilots approved. Garmin has gotten more autopilot STC in the last 6 months the BK and Dynon combined since the beginning of the certified autopilot era. Side note according to the Dynon certified page they are currently working on the Mooney STC. It looks like currently only mid-body. 2 Quote
Jetrn Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Posted October 1, 2021 thank you for your insight about the gfc500 autopilot. the autopilot maybe come sooner than the efis system. My attitude indicator acted up on a long descent a few weeks ago, but corrected it's self when back in level flight. if I do have to replace the attitude indicator, i would go with a pair of gi275s. trying to way the cost versus benefit of simplifying the panel. I would like to replace the 430w while there is still a used market for it. would like to know if the g500 can display items from the annunciator panel for low voltage, gear warnings, etc and remove it from the upper panel freeing up space. Quote
kortopates Posted October 1, 2021 Report Posted October 1, 2021 would like to know if the g500 can display items from the annunciator panel for low voltage, gear warnings, etc and remove it from the upper panel freeing up space.Nope, you'll want to keep your annunciator unless you want to install lights. A primary engine monitor or Garmin EIS would help more with some of the annunciator functions.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Jetrn Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Posted October 2, 2021 Thank you Kortopates! I would be keeping my jpi 900. I like the size but need to move it from the right panel to the left getting tired of leaning over to look at the numbers. Quote
Niko182 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Posted October 2, 2021 I got rid of mine and replaced it with lights over the G3X. I just kept 5 of them. Speed brakes, Boost pump, Alt air, Gear Unsafe, and Gear Down. I'd recommend it. I always disliked the old annunciation system. 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted October 2, 2021 Report Posted October 2, 2021 I got rid of mine and replaced it with lights over the G3X. I just kept 5 of them. Speed brakes, Boost pump, Alt air, Gear Unsafe, and Gear Down. I'd recommend it. I always disliked the old annunciation system.Ditto, don’t need a glass panel to make the change, I picked colors to coincide with their meaning. 1 Quote
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