M20K 252 with full fuel - no useful load?

[kortopates]

On 5/25/2020 at 3:21 PM, squeaky.stow said:

The 252 in question is mine. The previous owner (now deceased) was one of these guys that couldn’t let a year go by without adding another mod or upgrade to his airplane. Some of the stuff he put in I just shake my head about. Others, I silently bless him for. Monroy tanks were added before the TKS, so at that time they would have been useful if you REALLY wanted to spend 10 hours in the air! I have never totally filled them for obvious reasons, but I did fill them as far as I could just once. That was after having the tanks re-sealed by WeepNoMore in Wilmar MN. I drained the TKS and removed the rear seats to do it and was able to board 95 gallons.   Normally I fly with 60 - 70 gallons on board because after 4-5 hours, I really want to get out and stretch. With the wife on board, her limit is 4 hours, which we can do comfortably with baggage and IFR reserves. (Neither of us are very big) The TKS and the two of just about everything avionics and instrument-wise? Now those are worth the weight to me. I have been kind of spoiled by the high levels of redundancy in the airplanes I flew for a living and I like to have backups that when I fly IFR. 
That being said, it is definitely not an airplane for loading a family of four into and going any great distance. My mission is normally about 600 miles with one or two people. For that, it shines at 170 knots @ 10 GPH.

I am planning to pull the listing soon as COVID19 has changed my retirement plans and I think I will hang on to it for a few more years. 
 

Did you by chance go back to the prior superseded weight and balance sheet to get a sense of how realistic the re-weighing actually was, both in terms of weight and CG? I've seen a number of re-weighing's go bad and as soon as I saw they weighed it with full fuel I personally would have torn it up. If they were too lazy to follow the manufactures procedures for weighing, I would suspect  they were equally lazy about leveling the aircraft laterally and longitudinally. Attention to detail is critical when weighing an aircraft and for example you could pick a couple pounds in useful load by just using the correct weight for 100LL used by Mooney in the POH (5.82).

Depending on the changes since last weighing, you might have the ability to go back to that one and and make the necessary calculations to arrive at a new calculated weight & Bal versus rely on an error prone re-weighing. You also always have the option of just re-weighing the aircraft, per Mooney's instructions, to see how it compares. I bet it won't be the same!

[Cody Stallings]

6 hours ago, PJClark said:

I was reading.  Got a new smartwatch yesterday and found this cool customizable watch face

Someone Say Rocket?—:):):):)
 

Now I just need to get a smart watch, I’m still old school in the watch department.

[squeaky.stow]

12 hours ago, kortopates said:

Did you by chance go back to the prior superseded weight and balance sheet to get a sense of how realistic the re-weighing actually was, both in terms of weight and CG? I've seen a number of re-weighing's go bad and as soon as I saw they weighed it with full fuel I personally would have torn it up. If they were too lazy to follow the manufactures procedures for weighing, I would suspect  they were equally lazy about leveling the aircraft laterally and longitudinally. Attention to detail is critical when weighing an aircraft and for example you could pick a couple pounds in useful load by just using the correct weight for 100LL used by Mooney in the POH (5.82).

Depending on the changes since last weighing, you might have the ability to go back to that one and and make the necessary calculations to arrive at a new calculated weight & Bal versus rely on an error prone re-weighing. You also always have the option of just re-weighing the aircraft, per Mooney's instructions, to see how it compares. I bet it won't be the same!

Since I have decided to keep the airplane for a few more years, an Encore conversion and ADSB are in the plans. Once that is done, I will get a new W&B completed.