rbridges Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Marauder said: Yep, with the Max version, you can rip it all out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Wow. I didn't know that. Quote
rbridges Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 18 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: I'm not really qualified to speak on this matter... but when has that stopped me before? With the previous Aspen units I couldn't justify the second unit (MFD). Mainly because I have the very same information, data, charts, traffic, etc. on the IFD540 just a few inches over. I know it could back up the PFD, but there was still the requirement to have an AI backup regardless. With the new Aspen Max screens, (I saw them at OSH and they look great!) the additional AI backup isn't needed, so two Aspen screens and I could remove ALL other instruments? That's a bit more compelling. Does it matter if it's the 500 or 1000? Quote
LANCECASPER Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, rbridges said: Does it matter if it's the 500 or 1000? To take out the other instruments it has to be an MFD1000 with external back up battery. 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, rbridges said: Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah and just when I thought I had the only panel I'd ever need... Upgrade the PFD - $3 AMU Add the MFD - $9 AMU Stec 3100 - $20 AMU Then get it all installed. 2 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, gsxrpilot said: Yeah and just when I thought I had the only panel I'd ever need... Upgrade the PFD - $3 AMU Add the MFD - $9 AMU Stec 3100 - $20 AMU Then get it all installed. If you're gonna have 2 Aspens, might as well get 3. 3 Quote
Cruiser Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said: If you're gonna have 2 Aspens, might as well get 3. 2 Quote
NJMac Posted September 20, 2018 Report Posted September 20, 2018 And one for the FO If you're gonna have 2 Aspens, might as well get 3. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk 2 Quote
MIm20c Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, LANCECASPER said: To take out the other instruments it has to be an MFD1000 with external back up battery. I think LC is correct. However, the E5 and the new max displays are claiming 2 hr battery life with the internal battery. I wonder if the external battery will last 6-8 hrs with the new internals. Also both 1000 displays need to be upgraded to max status and need to be connected to a tso’d waas navigator for error correction. Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Pet peeve, on it seems like every aspen install, including the one just posted, you can see the very top sliver of the old instrument openings at the top of the aspens. Are installers too lazy to tidy this up?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
MIm20c Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, gsengle said: Pet peeve, on it seems like every aspen install, including the one just posted, you can see the very top sliver of the old instrument openings at the top of the aspens. Are installers too lazy to tidy this up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think you’re looking at the release lever. That’s why flush mount units need to have a cutout at the top to allow the unit to be removed. Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I think you’re looking at the release lever. This?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Pet peeve, on it seems like every aspen install, including the one just posted, you can see the very top sliver of the old instrument openings at the top of the aspens. Are installers too lazy to tidy this up?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What sliver are you talking about?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
MIm20c Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, gsengle said: This? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That’s the cutout in the panel. The silver color I think comes from camera angle looking right down into the release lever. Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 That’s the cutout in the panel. The silver color I think comes from camera angle looking right down into the release lever. That’s my point, I wouldn’t want to see the underlying cutoutsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 That’s the cutout in the panel. The silver color I think comes from camera angle looking right down into the release lever. Yeah, that I believe is the release point it doesn’t show much when the panel is darker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
DXB Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, LANCECASPER said: To take out the other instruments it has to be an MFD1000 with external back up battery. Wow also must have external battery Even though the Max internal ones have 2 hour life? That would give 4 hours between the two in an alternator failure. Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Yeah, that I believe is the release point it doesn’t show much when the panel is darker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I don’t think the releases are semicircles shaped like the top of three inch instrument holes, are they? Look at a bunch of aspen install pictures and there are the old instrument holes peeking above the aspens...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I don’t think the releases are semicircles shaped like the top of three inch instrument holes, are they? Look at a bunch of aspen install pictures and there are the old instrument holes peeking above the aspens... I’ll have to look closer next time I see one in person. I know what the lever looks like... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Marauder Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I don’t think the releases are semicircles shaped like the top of three inch instrument holes, are they? Look at a bunch of aspen install pictures and there are the old instrument holes peeking above the aspens...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I’ll take a closer look at mine and snap a couple close ups. There should not be any old holes behind mine. It is a fresh cut panel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
gsengle Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I’ll take a closer look at mine and snap a couple close ups. There should not be any old holes behind mine. It is a fresh cut panel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Now that’s how it’s done Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
MIm20c Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, gsengle said: Now that’s how it’s done I agree but I think what you’re looking at is either inside the release (embedded in the plastic bezel) or the mounting frame that is placed in between the panel and display. Quote
Andy95W Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, gsengle said: That’s my point, I wouldn’t want to see the underlying cutouts Oh yeah, that's really atrocious looking. I guess I'll have to keep looking for a better option than 3 Aspens in my panel. 1 Quote
Cruiser Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, gsengle said: Pet peeve, on it seems like every aspen install, including the one just posted, you can see the very top sliver of the old instrument openings at the top of the aspens. Are installers too lazy to tidy this up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk there is a raised lip in the center of the mounting bracket that a spring loaded tab snaps into. This holds the unit in place and it must be pushed down to release the unit for removal. It is not the panel instrument cutout. Quote
gsxrpilot Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 You can see the cut out here. This panel was custom cut for the flush mount aspen kit. It's never had a round instrument in this position. It's how the aspen is removed. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 The quirky top artifact is a visual cue that only six-pack navigators assume they are seeing... It really looks like the old holes of the six-pack are visible... Have no fear, your non-Aviation friends won’t see it that way... Great panel pics gents! Thanks for sharing all the details. The aspen guys should have used a different shape and color for that tab... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
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