Raptor05121 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 My belly unit failed. Whelen SCFA with the SA406 tube. I can't find one cheaper than $100. Not sure if its worth spending $100 and getting new, or swallowing $300 more and going LED.... Anyone have one lying around by chance? Quote
Hank Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 It's no help right now, but you'll like the LED flasher. Quote
65MooneyPilot Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Which LED are you guys buying for the bottom strobe? I have only seen the half red half white. Thanks, Kevin Quote
carusoam Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Picture two MSers on your shoulders... A CB carrying a red pitchfork and that other guy carrying an iPad full of big G apps and electronic Big G manuals... How many hours did you get from that one xenon bulb? That was not original equipment. Probably logged somewhere... if it is 10years old and has 1000 hours on it... Expect Spending $100 per bulb will delay having to spend $300 for a nifty LED unit... A net savings of $200... today. At the rate you are flying, 200hrs per year...? Expect to get another 1000 hours, but it will happen in five years instead. The LED one probably would be the last one you would buy for this bird.... Probably not the high five, go spend it, your bird needs it, you’ll save so much in the long run, you were hoping for... On the other hand.... LED Technology has grown a lot. The units are smaller and lighter. A few hours of overtime can make it work, you want it, go for it!!! PP thoughts only, as seen through the eyes of a machine buyer, always comparing options with an analytical eye... Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Which LED are you guys buying for the bottom strobe? I have only seen the half red half white. Thanks, Kevin I have this one: http://m.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ledbeaconrotocraft.php?recfer=626It’s all red. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
jetdriven Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Just bought one too. 7108051. 12v on-off 150cp all red led. Spent a little extra time and flush mount it. It looks clean then. Bright as hell too. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Report Posted February 4, 2018 any pics? I've got strobes up top and bottom. Bottom has died. Maybe I can put a blank plate over that one and throw an LED up top. Quote
carusoam Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 My C had a blank in the bottom location. Red coffee grinder on top. Grinder got replaced with a whelen strobe along the way... More LEDs are better than less... Best regards, -a- Quote
tigers2007 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Sacrifice eight hours of your life working an OT shift and buy two red LED. Sync them too. GoFundMe?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
65MooneyPilot Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 I really wanted an all white led but Whelen only makes all white in 24V. Quote
Hank Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) As I've postwd here before, when my old Whelen flasher started flashing with variabke intermittance, I went for the new Whelen LED. Mostly because when I went to the Whelen booth at Sun n Fun and gave the guy my part number, he said "Wow, that's old. Let me shiw yiu what you need." That was the last credit card transaction from Hangar D befire the tornadoes came down the runway . . . . Here's what they look like. I reused the trim ring from the old one, it fit perfectly on the new LED unit as shown: As others have said, it's-a plenty bright! It's also red & white, same orientation as before. I double-checked several other planes on the field before committing to the screwdriver, just to be sure. Even though the holes only lined up one way. Edited February 4, 2018 by Hank 1 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 Same beacon as Hank. Whelen 7108051. We flush mounted it, that trim ring at the base of the glass lens is all that’s on the outee skin of the plane. The rest is inside. AA97491C-4576-47A4-B337-6A27F0AA5167.MOV Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Report Posted February 5, 2018 Do I have any legal requirements for color on these? Red, White, or Red/White? I do not have wingtip strobes Quote
jetdriven Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 Aviation red or white. Dealers choice. Quote
Hank Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 I believe mine is red on the front and white on the back . . . . Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Report Posted February 5, 2018 This Aveo Red Baron is only 1.5" high and actually has a comet-flash feature instead of the "on/off" of the Whelens Quote
SantosDumont Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 I went Whelen 90520 LED beacon last year. Super bright. You won’t regret it. Quote
Hank Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Raptor05121 said: This Aveo Red Baron is only 1.5" high and actually has a comet-flash feature instead of the "on/off" of the Whelens Those Red Barons are cute! Are they approved for certified airplanes? Quote
Skates97 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hank said: Those Red Barons are cute! Are they approved for certified airplanes? Aircraft Spruce lists them as for experimental use only... What would happen if someone put that on a certified plane and kept their old beacon just in case they needed to put it back in? Just asking for a friend... Quote
bradp Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 I just pulled my wingtip strobes - so I have two tubes both have some hours left on them - and have an old Whelen A470 that works if you’re interested in it. Quote
DonMuncy Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Skates97 said: What would happen if someone put that on a certified plane and kept their old beacon just in case they needed to put it back in? Just asking for a friend... There are only three times your friend would have a problem. (1) If his IA catches it at annual (and cares). (2) If a vigilant FAA guys catches it on a ramp check. (3) After he crashes and the investigators find it. 1 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 5, 2018 Report Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Hank said: Those Red Barons are cute! Are they approved for certified airplanes? There’s a whole bunch of threads about this on Beechtalk about that unit specifically. Some have bought the certified version only to find it’s got a green page which is a Malaysian airworthiness approval and it is approved by treaty. Others bought the regular version and did a 337. But if it has a set of conforming wingtip strobes then the fuselage beacon may not be required, then it’s a minor alteration. Quote
Skates97 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 Actually, there is a version for Certified, it is just $400 more than the experimental... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/galacticaredbaronxp.php?clickkey=328376 Experimental version... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/aveoredbaronmaxired3.php?clickkey=3278926 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) Yes and like I said the only difference is the box includes a green Malaysian airworthiness paper which is legal because it’s reciprocal by treaty. Cheap, really. Here. If you want to pay 300$ for it you can. https://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92290&hilit=Red+Baron+xp+certified Edited February 6, 2018 by jetdriven Quote
Raptor05121 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Report Posted February 7, 2018 There are two guys on the Piper Forum running the XP (experimental) version with a 337 from the FSDO. Quote
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