ScubaMan Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Good Morning..... I just purchased a 2007 G1000 equipped M20R and looking for a decent checklist. I'm finding a few our there but nothing that seems to be specific to or for the G1000 equipped models. The only one I can find is the Checkmate version and it's really not what I'm looking for. This is my first post so I hope this is the right place to ask a question. Thanks Michael Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 ScubaMan, You are in the right place to ask questions. The forum on Modern Mooneys might be a slightly better place...(no requirement to double post). I would share my checklist with, unfortunately My M20R is still of the steam gauge variety... Fortunately, there are a couple of G1000 owners here. Welcome aboard.... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlunseth Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I have an M20K 231 which is between steam gauges and a full glass panel. I made up my own checklist using a number of sources, including the manuals for some of the panel gadgets I added. Most manuals have a description of what needs to be done in preflight, they just don't supply you with a checklist. I used a table format. I would be glad to send you my list, although it will not fit your plane's needs that well. At least you will have the format to start with. If you want it, send a PM with your email and I will email the doc. I used it in paper form for about a year until I was satisfied it was a good checklist, then recently had it laminated and bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 hi scubaman...welcome to Mooney Madness....regarding your checklists....Have you looked for one right in the g1000 itself???I see you have an 07 and Mooney supplied electronic checklists in the checklists menu of the G1000.I believe this is the case because Don Kaye sent me a checklist file we Bravo users have our 696 s....it is a Garmin checklist program that was written for late model Mooneys with g1000...I bet sellis from the factory could comment on this...good luck...ps I see we are almost neighbors...where are you based????sinc kp couch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andysmith11 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I created my own checklist from a couple of sources. I went to Flight Training Inc. and they provided a checklist in their training manual. This is largely based off of the POH. Between the two sources, I then created an excel spreadsheet checklist that is a two sided laminated checklist I use in the cockpit. I created a simliar checklist for emergency proceedures. Send me a PM and I will send you the files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WardHolbrook Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 It’s common and perfectly legal to modify the "normal procedures" checklists in the aircraft we fly. Let’s face it, some of the original factory checklists have you unnecessarily bouncing all over the panel and around the cockpit with little or no logic to the flow. For Part 91 operators it's legal to modify your checklists to your heart’s content, just make sure that you retain the required items in some logical sequence. If you're operating under Part 135, any modifications will require approval from the feds, but this is normally not a big deal.If you're flying something that requires more than CIGARS and GUMPS, it's quite useful to spend some quality time sitting in the cockpit with the factory checklist in front of you. It will become quite evident how to reorder things to come up with some logical checklist flows. Keep the checklists reasonable. Years ago I flew MU-2s for LifeFlight. Our two particular airplanes had been leased by the US Air Force and flown by Air Force pilots. When we took delivery of them, the Air Force checklists were still in the cockpit. What an eye-opener. I have never seen a more complicated checklist in my life! It was comprised of two of the standard issue military multi-ringed blue binders with page after page after page of "to do" items. By comparison, the FlightSafety issued checklist was one 8 1/2" x 11" laminated sheet. The FlightSafety checklist was more than adequate. I had no idea what the purpose of the Air Force checklist was. As I remembered, it had every warning, caution, comment and suggestion contained in the AFM. Definitely overkill and probably a safety concern - too much heads down time required to wade through it. You’re eyes need to be outside the cockpit, not buried in a unnecessarily lengthy checklist.If approached correctly, you will instill a certain level of redundancy (read: enhance safety) by developing memorized "flows" which are used to accomplish each particular "Normal" procedure checklist task from memory. (Abnormal and Emergency checklists are different animals and are handled a differently - they are basically "to do" lists, with certain specific checklists being committed to memory on transport category airplanes.) Once you've developed your memorized checklist flow you perform the flow prior to going to your "hardcopy". The hard copy checklist is used to verify the flow and confirm that everything has been accomplished. If you use a checklist as a "To Do List", human nature being what it is, you will - from time to time - leave something out or skip over it. Using a flow followed by the checklist gives you two passes at your required actions and greatly minimizes the risk of inadvertently missing something. Do you need to check some items more than twice? Probably not, but then that's a personal prerogative. Checking things three and four times almost borders on obsessive compulsive behavior. A good checklist doesn't need to be a long checklist. On basic airplanes, pneumonic checklists are probably more than adequate; but that being said, using checklists is a very important habit to develop as you more up the ladder into more complex aircraft. When I put together a written checklist, I print it out using a MS Word or Excel template then simply take the completed checklist down to Staples and have them laminated for a buck a page. They even have a rounded corner punch to put a nice finishing touch to it. Finally, a checklist is probably never complete, but rather a work in progress. They have a tendency to evolve over time. Again, the whole purpose of using flows in conjunction with a written checklist is to simplify cockpit workload and to introduce a level of redundancy into the process - you always have two passes to check every item. It also helps you to minimize heads down time; for example, the pilot not flying does the After Takeoff Flow as soon as possible after takeoff, but waits until we're out of 10,000 to run the After Takeoff checklist. That way we minimize the heads down time in the airspace where most VFR traffic is. Do the flow then verify with the written checklist when it's safe to do so. Two separate methods, one backs up the other. It doesn't matter whether you're flying a Mooney or a G4 it all works the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Scubaman.....small world...hanger 104 ,north hangers....kpc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N513ZM Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Quote: ScubaMan Good Morning..... I just purchased a 2007 G1000 equipped M20R and looking for a decent checklist. I'm finding a few our there but nothing that seems to be specific to or for the G1000 equipped models. The only one I can find is the Checkmate version and it's really not what I'm looking for. This is my first post so I hope this is the right place to ask a question. Thanks Michael Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Scubaman...even smaller world,I got my naui certification in 1976 @Dolphin swim school .KP Couch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaMan Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Quote: thinwing Scubaman...even smaller world,I got my naui certification in 1976 @Dolphin swim school .KP Couch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaMan Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Quote: N513ZM Did you buy Don Miller's bird? No.... It was Bill Adams aircraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaMan Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Quote: andysmith11 I created my own checklist from a couple of sources. I went to Flight Training Inc. and they provided a checklist in their training manual. This is largely based off of the POH. Between the two sources, I then created an excel spreadsheet checklist that is a two sided laminated checklist I use in the cockpit. I created a simliar checklist for emergency proceedures. Send me a PM and I will send you the files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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