ADS-B Out/In solutions for WAAS and non-WAAS Mooneys

[Schinderhannes]

On 5/31/2017 at 9:22 AM, N6758N said:

330ES should be something like this.

Thank you for posting the pictures of your setup . I was surprised that your setup shows DATA OFF for 429 Input. Doesn't the TDR need GPS input for ADS-B out? It would be fantastic if you could post pictures of 430W setup as well.

Thank you,

Frank 

[N6758N]

51 minutes ago, N9495V said:

Thank you for posting the pictures of your setup . I was surprised that your setup shows DATA OFF for 429 Input. Doesn't the TDR need GPS input for ADS-B out? It would be fantastic if you could post pictures of 430W setup as well.

Thank you,

Frank 

Hi Frank,

The 429 is only for TIS traffic to the 430W in this case, hence the output only.WAAS position source is fed to the 330ES via RS232 from the 430W. I will post pics of the 430W setup next time I am near the airplane.

[Schinderhannes]

Terry:

The GTX330 installation manual lists under RS232 input options: REMOTE RS-232 serial input remote data. Reserved for future use.

Do I assume correct that the "future use" is the "ADS B out" and your 430W feeds the GPS data to RS232 Channel 1 of your 330. The 330 is connected to a grey code encoder and provides serial altitude information to the 430W?

Thank you,

Frank

[gsxrpilot]

On 6/9/2017 at 3:17 AM, 231LV said:

After several trips the Cutter folks made up to my plane plus a couple of phone calls for reconfiguration, I passed ADS-B Out. I'm using a Stratus/Ipad for ADS-B In. I wish I could say it was easy and cheap but it wasn't. A ham handed technician broke my coms wire after coming up to try and remedy the situation; another trip up to repair that and "verify" all was working....except it wasn't. A phone call for reconfiguration followed by a flight and another phone call for reconfiguration before a successful flight and verification. My take on ADS-B for those still researching a solution; there doesn't appear to be anything cheap if you don't already have a WAAS box....Garmin gets  $4k to" WAAS you" plus a transponder...upgraded Garmin 330 to ES is $1.5k plus labor, shipping, tax. Stand alone ADS-B transponders seem to be between $5-8K plus install. The least costly ADS-B compliance I have heard is $5k for a Stratus transponder but the owner already had a Garmin 430W. The installation folks were extremely apologetic and were very quick to try and solve the problem sending a technician on a four hour round trip drive twice plus numerous phone calls. Bottom line is I am good to go and learned a lot.

One of the reasons I keep hating on non-WAAS Mooneys that come up for sale. Mooneys are made to travel, therefore most buyers are looking to travel, that will benefit from WAAS Approaches and will likely require ADSB Out.  Better WAAS your Mooney, or just keep it.