Tony Armour Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 Yes, it took me three times to do a low pass over the runway :-) I had no idea how hard it would be....but that little air speed dial-ometer kept wanting to get in the red. Also was somewhat of a rush for someone that for 20 years has only used a runway for takeoffs and landings. Why ?? I don't know......maybe folks dive at the finish ? haha Steep turns "at speed" around a point didn't seem too bad though. My flight track looks like I was lost......AND drunk ! Quote
jrwilson Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 I want to see the flight track...That sounds fun. I did formation flying with the Mooney Caravan training group and that was a fun experience for someone who for 25 years tried to stay away from other planes. 1 Quote
carl Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 steep turns . woohooo how steep ? and at what speed ? how many g s . what it feel like . i want to race too . carl 1 Quote
Tony Armour Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 I want to see the flight track...That sounds fun. I did formation flying with the Mooney Caravan training group and that was a fun experience for someone who for 25 years tried to stay away from other planes. What little time I have had trying to stay beside another airplane for a photo op, I found out formation flying would not be an easy task. Certainly a learning curve. And yea.....we were always told to avoid others LOL Quote
Tony Armour Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 steep turns . woohooo how steep ? and at what speed ? how many g s . what it feel like . i want to race too . carl No clue on how steep or how many G's. I was just trying to make a decent turn around a point at speed. (Not full throttle though) Seeing what the airplane did and what I was doing. I think the airplane would try to climb and I was also naturally pulling back on the yoke early in the turn. Ground speeds were 150 to 180kts. These would not have been "air show" turns but certainly something I have no reason to do in normal flying. I only noted the speeds because I have been watching/learning the low level wind forecasts. Quote
jetdriven Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Bank 60 and pull http://www.pilotsandweather.com/ssr.html~1.5 G. Let he plane descend a little in the turn. That laminar flow wing scrubs off speed fast when you load it up. who needs a winds aloft forecast when you have real time Doppler winds? They're called VAD winds. http://www.pilotsandweather.com/ssr.html Edited November 3, 2015 by jetdriven 1 Quote
Tony Armour Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Bank 60 and pull http://www.pilotsandweather.com/ssr.html~1.5 G. Let he plane descend a little in the turn. That laminar flow wing scrubs off speed fast when you load it up. who needs a winds aloft forecast when you have real time Doppler winds? They're called VAD winds. http://www.pilotsandweather.com/ssr.html I've been using RUC winds, not winds aloft. I think VAD would be a good back-up check but more useable data with RUC and can be seen in a much friendlier format and lower altitudes where a lot of the flying will take place. http://ryancarlton.com/?loc=KGRd&units=KTs&tempformat=0&altformat=0 Seems to be a normal sweet spot in the 3,000' area there near the race location. Well, sweet if you want to be that high and I do :-) The weather looks iffy right now. Edited November 3, 2015 by Tony Armour Quote
Jeff_S Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 Having raced a similar course earlier in the year, the legs are so short that I don't think it makes sense to try to climb to any altitude unless the winds are really strong in in your favor. You have to cross each turn point at 1000' AGL anyway. The super fast guys in the last race all just zoomed along about 2000' MSL. Tony, I borrowed from Byron's advice last time, and here's the technique I've been practicing. As you approach the turn point, angle out away from the airport about like you would for a pattern entry. Maintain full speed until you want to start your turn, then pull up a touch to unload the wings and roll into your steep turn, letting it drop through the turn to avoid G-buildup. I am able to maintain a 180 knot speed through the turn that way and it feels pretty comfortable. I don't mind giving you advice since we're not in the same class, although we are both in Production; perhaps I should keep my mouth shut! Quote
Tony Armour Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 I will try that but it may be Saturday :-) I asked about the turn altitude since it reads be "at" that altitude and was told that the published turn altitudes are minimum altitudes. Probably no worries with your power and my experience. I may not even run full power since I'm just learning, even firewalled I'm down a couple inches from max boost. Quote
jerryg324 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Posted November 4, 2015 Sounds like a blast !!! I'm from Dalton originally and still visit often... Hope to see you around sometime... 1 Quote
carusoam Posted November 4, 2015 Report Posted November 4, 2015 Welcome aboard, GerryG. best regards, -a- Quote
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