EDM 830 install question

[FlyDave]

34 minutes ago, JohnB said:

Ok after researching this full circle, and reading all the posts here, I'm going to upgrade my 800 to an 830 and NOT do the 900 install at this time because:

1. A jpi edm 900 will not fit landscape in my panel without a major panel re do and would probably end up in portrait mode when all is done.
2. In portrait mode you only get to display 5-6 linear gauges on the 830'and 900, and you can display up to 8 on the edm 830 in landscape mode.
3. With a 900, you don't get to choose the 5 gauges that are displayed, whereas with an 830, you can display whatever you want on your choice of 8 linear gauges.
4. An 830 will fit near where my 800 is in landscape mode, with my choice of linear gauges to always display.
5. The cost difference and hassle factor to upgrading to a 900 is much greater (including panel redo, 900 install time, moving other instruments, no trade in through jpi of 800) vs doing an 800 to 830 swap (almost plug and play install, upgrade path exists) will allow me to save more coin for more upgrades and not keep the plane down as long.

There you have it. Thanks again for all of the input!

John

 

John,

Great points - thanks for the analysis. I had an 830 in my J and it is a great unit.

My 800 is right above the yoke shaft and I don't have room to put the 830 there. Where are you planning to put your 830?

Dave

[JohnB]

1 hour ago, FlyDave said:

John,

Great points - thanks for the analysis. I had an 830 in my J and it is a great unit.

My 800 is right above the yoke shaft and I don't have room to put the 830 there. Where are you planning to put your 830?

Dave

 

I plan on putting my EDM 830 where my 800 is now on the right side of my panel after removing my ADF , and replace my NAV/COM2 radio and moving things around on the right stack. For some reason, my panel picture isn't uploading correctly, guess ill have to take another.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2015 by JohnB

[cnoe]

Ok after researching this full circle, and reading all the posts here, I'm going to upgrade my 800 to an 830 and NOT do the 900 install at this time because:

1. A jpi edm 900 will not fit landscape in my panel without a major panel re do and would probably end up in portrait mode when all is done.
2. In portrait mode you only get to display 5-6 linear gauges on the 830'and 900, and you can display up to 8 on the edm 830 in landscape mode.
3. With a 900, you don't get to choose the 5 gauges that are displayed, whereas with an 830, you can display whatever you want on your choice of 8 linear gauges.
4. An 830 will fit near where my 800 is in landscape mode, with my choice of linear gauges to always display.
5. The cost difference and hassle factor to upgrading to a 900 is much greater (including panel redo, 900 install time, moving other instruments, no trade in through jpi of 800) vs doing an 800 to 830 swap (almost plug and play install, upgrade path exists) will allow me to save more coin for more upgrades and not keep the plane down as long.

There you have it. Thanks again for all of the input!

John

 

John, I'm not sure if you're sporting 4 or 6 cylinders but FYI... I installed an 830 about 6 months ago in the portrait orientation and am displaying 10 data fields on the right. That (configuration) info was nearly impossible to get from JPI prior to installation. The unit works great for me and didn't require a new panel to make it fit.

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[JohnB]

26 minutes ago, cnoe said:

John, I'm not sure if you're sporting 4 or 6 cylinders but FYI... I installed an 830 about 6 months ago in the portrait orientation and am displaying 10 data fields on the right. That (configuration) info was nearly impossible to get from JPI prior to installation. The unit works great for me and didn't require a new panel to make it fit.

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10!!!!! That's Awesome! I have a 6 cylinder so likely wouldn't be able to fit 10 in that orientation.. BUT in the landscape orientation, may be able to get more than 8 in my new 830 once its installed since I know now from your picture that its possible for the device to monitor that many.. Thats awesome thanks!  

[Guest Mike261]

I just had a 900 installed a couple of weeks ago:

4 cht probes, 4 egt, fuel flow sensor, shunt for ammeter, MP and RPM, drain tanks and calibrate fuel level senders, OAT sensor, oil pressure and temp and fuel pressure.

removed: factory shading fuel flow, all old engine gauges. plugged all holes.6

40 hrs total, but he had to move the tanis heaters to install the probes, this was worth an extra hour or so and 650 for the new tanis probes.

 

mike

Edited December 28, 2015 by Mike261
changed 930 to 900

[Bob_Belville]

The install of my 930 which was done as part of a new panel was 36 hours. That included all new probes and sensors as well as r&r of the fuel quantity sender units from the wings. They were send to Lock Haven for overhaul.I was really good to get the fuel and oil lines out of the cabin.

 

[Guest Mike261]

jealous...if i had it to do over again i would go with the larger display of the 930.

 

[bradp]

This is great information.  

A question I've had but haven't seen the answer to in other threads is whether there is an upgrade path from 730/830 to 900 from JPI?  Is it simply a firmware upgrade for the 730/830 head to now become a 900?   If the probes can be cross referenced to the same part numbers, I'd think a significant about of labor/downtime could be saved by using the already-installed harness and existing probe installs (like Maurader) but seems silly to have to buy the entire kit if 50-80% of the required equipment is already there.  

Edit:  I see now that there are some hardware differences between the 830/900.  Would be nice to just be able to get the box and not have to sell redundant probes 

Take care

-B

Edited December 29, 2015 by bradp

[N601RX]

I replaced my 830 with a 900. Many of the probes and a couple of the harnesses are the same pn.  The 900 is a completely new head. I purchased the entire 900 kit and they sold the 830 head with the new sensors and harness that came with the 900. Otherwise it would be hard to sell the 830 with only half the sensors as they are expensive if purchased seperately.  By selling the 2 year old 830 with new probes I recovered most all of what I paid for it.