flyboy0681 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Nothing, unless both die at the same time, all property goes to spouse. Exactly. Without a civil union the gay partner ("spouse") would not get anything and a judge will decide which next of kin gets all of the goodies.
AndyFromCB Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Dude, you must have your reasons, but may I suggest your perception of Christianity is just a little tainted? Our old church building, lot and building isn't worth much. We don't need laws to restrict what you buy on Sunday ... and we don't ever ask visitors for money or tell members how much to contribute. We need a place to meet to worship God ... so we have our own building and pay the bills together for it ... yeah that's about it. We don't condone killing your babies because it's just not a convenient time for you to have a child ... but each person will give their own account to God ... There are lot of hypocrites out there and some creepy or arrogant religious groups ... so I can't really blame your hostility. Can I let you in on a secret, (sssshhhhh) they are not really Christians, they're fakes, legalists and it really shows ... Every heard of any stuff like "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide that leads to destruction and many are those who enter by it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it." Yeah, it's like that. The next verse is "Beware of false prophets ... " Yeah, it's like that too ... The estuaries of hell are wide; The barges (Satan’s special pride) Provide for those who wish to ride One way; for just as advertised The ferries are all subsidised.
flyboy0681 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 +1 I not only have gay friends, gay neighbors ... but gay family members. I treat them the same as everyone else. As a citizen they should have the same rights. As a Christian, I can not, will not, endorse or approve of a lifestyle contrary to that of Christ. But that is a personal thing, and as long as no one asks, then that is between me and God. Each person in America should be free to choose how they live, as long as they are not hurting others. Just don't get in my face and think you have the right to force me to endorse your choices. You made them - you answer to God for you ... and I'll answer to God for me. For the first time in a while, we are on the same page on this one. 1
jetdriven Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 What did Jesus Christ say about homosexuality?
flyboy0681 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 What did Jesus Christ say about homosexuality? Everyone is welcome in my kingdom.
Guest Posted January 8, 2015 Report Posted January 8, 2015 Surely we are not forgetting all of the child abuse perpetrated by members of the clergy of many denominations? In Canada many of our native people suffered for decades in our "residential school system". Don't know how these people will answer to the All Mighty? Clarence
AndyFromCB Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 Here you go, http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/01/08/tamir_rice_sister_video_slain_12_year_old_s_older_sibling_detained.html?wpsrc=fol_fb If that's not pure, cold blooded execution by cop, then I don't know what is. No effort what so ever to save the kid. They are not supposed to be judge, executioner and jury at the same time. Once the "threat" is neutralized, it is their job to do everything to save their target. Yeah, race baiting my ass, serve and protect my ass too. You think they would have pulled the trigger if the kid was white? Better yet, don't answer that. How do you feel about that, Scott, considering Ohio is an open carry state and even the cops admit the gun was in his pants and not his hands. Should you get shot next time you coat accidentally rides up in a restaurant and a handle gets exposed.
jetdriven Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 Do you want to follow Christ? I am merely an observer anymore. Organized religion has left me with that perspective. But this statement triggers my brain.."As a Christian, I can not, will not, endorse or approve of a lifestyle contrary to that of Christ." So what exactly did Jesus say to lead you he disproves of homosexuality?
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 So what exactly did Jesus say to lead you he disproves of homosexuality? "See the guy over there, he throws stones like a girl".
AndyFromCB Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 I am merely an observer anymore. Organized religion has left me with that perspective. But this statement triggers my brain.."As a Christian, I can not, will not, endorse or approve of a lifestyle contrary to that of Christ." So what exactly did Jesus say to lead you he disproves disapproved of homosexuality? fixed that for you, being the fellow is deceased...
AndyFromCB Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 Dave, Do you like cheeseburgers? I'm sure he would have disapproved as well. What about surf and turf? That shirt you were in the cockpit, pure cotton I hope, not some sort of wrinkle free blend. It's all in the bible as well. I assume wife sleeps in the shed for two weeks a month as well. If not, well, you can imagine...
AndyFromCB Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 God, Foxnews just keeps on giving. so why not, let me race bait some more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/shannon-bream-fox-charlie-hebdo-skin-color That's my question about these guys because if we know they were speaking unaccented French and they had, you know, ski masks on, do we even know what color they were," Bream said. "What the tone of their skin was. I mean what if they didn't look like typical bad guys?'
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 God, Foxnews just keeps on giving. so why not, let me race bait some more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/shannon-bream-fox-charlie-hebdo-skin-color That's my question about these guys because if we know they were speaking unaccented French and they had, you know, ski masks on, do we even know what color they were," Bream said. "What the tone of their skin was. I mean what if they didn't look like typical bad guys?' Two comments: First, I agree with the one in the blue, I don't want my local cops armed to the hilt to view me as the bad guy. Second, what a great set of legs.
jetdriven Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 God, Foxnews just keeps on giving. so why not, let me race bait some more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/shannon-bream-fox-charlie-hebdo-skin-color That's my question about these guys because if we know they were speaking unaccented French and they had, you know, ski masks on, do we even know what color they were," Bream said. "What the tone of their skin was. I mean what if they didn't look like typical bad guys?' "We ARE being hunted ! ISIS is proof of that!" Yeah, Ass YOU are the race baiter ! Just because Fox News thinks all bad guys (synonymous with the term "Muslim") are brown, doesnt mean they are racist! They are just pointing out the obvious fact that murderers are brown !
jetdriven Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 Eloquently said. Now about homosuexuality and its practice being "contrary to that of Christ". Im still waiting about the part where he condemned the practice... EDIT: I saw your post from above. Well written and explained. Thanks. 1
jetdriven Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 No, I truly believe ISIS is real and they are bad dudes. Are they present danger to the USA? Yeah, right below the common influenza virus, and a distant 5th to death caused by medical mistakes, auto accidents, and cancer.
rob Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 It's a proposal. Something to discuss. Seeing as they haven't released any budgetary or proposed costs, it's hard to say what it would involve. I doubt that there are enough community colleges to handle the load that it could create, but I wouldn't want to stifle conversation; would you?
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 St. Obama is tossing out "more free stuff" idea. Two years of "free" community college. REALLY? The spending of this President...and ultimately the party that will "look bad" because they say NO. Just ridiculous. Is this the problem in the US right now? Expensive Community Colleges? What's the plan Stan? As a great American once said, there you go again. Many presidents have had many proposals over the decades in which nothing came of them. Remember private Social Security accounts? Where did that go? How about Cap 'n Trade? According to the first order of business by the GOP, the most important item on their agenda is outlawing abortion.
John Pleisse Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 According to the first order of business by the GOP, the most important item on their agenda is outlawing abortion. As it should be, but empty moral symbolism....not unlike the "I can't breathe crowd", or the "gender inequality crowd" or "the income inequality" crowd. Obama is scorched earth from here on out. His gift to America? A GOP White House in 2016. CNN just carried his Knoxville speach for only the two minutes he spoke about France, then broke away the second he started touting the economy and his agenda. He had the media unfettered for 6 years, not anymore.
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 As it should be, but empty moral symbolism....not unlike the "I can't breathe crowd", or the "gender inequality crowd" or "the income inequality" crowd. Obama is scorched earth from here on out. His gift to America? A GOP White House in 2016. CNN just carried his Knoxville speach for only the two minutes he spoke about France, then broke away the second he started touting the economy and his agenda. He had the media unfettered for 6 years, not anymore. Although I am a right-to-lifer, I don't believe their first order of business should have been five bills dealing with abortion. A GOP White House in 2016 sounds enticing - as long as it's not some right-wing religious nut.
John Pleisse Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 Agenda? I don't think JD fleecing police departments in Seattle, New Orleans and NYC is a top prioity. I don't think nationalizing healthcare for the 6% downtroden among us is a prioity either. Brother-man is about to go on the record with his veto pen. He's all alone and America is fed up.
flyboy0681 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 He's all alone and America is fed up. He did genuinely win re-election by over 5 million popular votes. [Let the floodgates open]
John Pleisse Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 No, I truly believe ISIS is real and they are bad dudes. Are they present danger to the USA? Yeah, right below the common influenza virus, and a distant 5th to death caused by medical mistakes, auto accidents, and cancer. I disagree Byron. Our position is weak and our borders porous. What happened in France is just too easy. I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does, it will be politically defining, and in the end, I promise you, security resources, market interruptions and public fear, will far surpass the flu, medical mistakes and cancer....even statistically. 2
fantom Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 I just peeked in, and I'm convinced you guys don't fly, work or make love often enough... All this bickering is a waste of time. Especially for my friend flyboy, who is taking a lot of time away from work and family in an attempt to prove how well informed he is. The bureaucracy runs Washington not Congress or the White House ... elected officials, D,R & I, are just ceremonial kings and queens of America .. window dressing ... professional lifers in D.C. run the show and write policy which our elected heroes don't even read before voting on it. They are clueless, and not one of them can be trusted. Not one. Democrat, Republican or Libertarian. Even my favor ate self proclaimed 'moderate' far right winger. Once in office all politicians become convinced they have to stay in office to save the country ... and they will do anything to keep their job. Seems even the perception of power corrupts. Even with what's going on in France, President Obama favors accommodation with radical Islam, their regimes and their leaders. Yesterday he couldn't acknowledge they are at war with the free word or even say Radical Islam. ISIS have killed or maimed about a 1,000 people in the last week. We're in BIG trouble when the French exhibit bigger balls than many Americans. I'll go now.... 4
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