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Now if only Peter would work on his

You're kidding right? 2500 under market price and it's from Indonesia and the most expensive thing he's ever sold is 99 cents and he's never sold any avionics before and it's brand new and never been installed? Keep looking, you'll never see this one. Ebay will probably send you a message soon saying that the transaction has been canceled. Gullible buyers is what keeps people like this scamming.

Is that the price you are sharing with your wife? 2 Aspens including EA100, JPI 900, Sandia 340, L-3 Lynx, PMA 450A (upgrade from 8000B), Avidyne 440 (upgrade from 430W), Garmin GNC Navcom Yes 40 is North of 25, just like Canada is North of Mexico. . lol

If someone on here copies the "Bravo" script on their wing they owe this seller a royalty and each of us an apology.

Haha . . i get it. He should be sued, subjected to a Mooneyspace tribunal and perhaps even tortured for picking the most common Mooney paint scheme since 2000.

The color choices may be nice and may complement the lines of the Mooney, but if you look at the details it looks like a shoddy job. Here's an example (notice how the design on the tail is jagged and does not follow a smooth arc like it should): Painting "Bravo" on the wing in a cursive font is just plain tacky. If it was mine, that would be the first thing that came off.

We already know that no one was willing to bid $100,000 due to the questionable history. http://www.ebay.com/itm/93-MOONEY-TLS-BRAVO-1700-TT-CHEAP-DEAL-OF-THE-CENTURY-/122537932027?hash=item1c87d474fb:g:j~QAAOSwt5hYf~Q0&vxp=mtr Now he's trying to get someone to bid $110,000 or higher. http://www.ebay.com/itm/93-MOONEY-TLS-BRAVO-1700-TT-/122557722381?hash=item1c89026f0d:g:j~QAAOSwt5hYf~Q0&vxp=mtr With the extensive damage history, unproven repairs and shady pricing all over the map the price should be considerably South of $100,000 for it to make sense.

Usually if they let you do some of the labor they only charge 25% more

Ah that's right I forgot, all people from Omaha are clueless and none of them run for-profit businesses. Oh, hang on, isn't Warren Buffett from Omaha?

The only way I would even consider buying it is if Don Maxwell did a thorough pre-buy. If it was me I'd want Don to go pick it up and fly it to his shop so he could find the things you only find when flying the airplane. No question, an M20M with TKS should go for more than that, but my guess is that there is a reason that no one has bought it yet, including pilots and brokers with decades of experience. If it was such a great deal, by now it would have been snatched up. A hard question to ask yourself sometimes is what makes me any smarter than all of them put together? Is it really a good deal, since someday you will sell it and all of the history will be available to the next buyer? Be careful that this doesn't happen: "When a man with some money meets a man with some experience, the two shall exchange. The man with the money will end up with the experience. The man with the experience will end up with the money." All that being said, if Don Maxwell gives it a clean bill of health, go for it.

This is from the install manual: "The AXP340 uses a simple setup system to program important system parameters, including the Mode S address. In the original factory configuration, the setup screen is the first thing that runs when you switch on the transponder. If the transponder has already been configured, and you want to access the setup screen again, simply press the FUNC button while switching on the transponder and the setup system will run." Then later on after setting up other menu items you get to this: "In the USA there are two ADS-B channels, 1090ES and UAT, and there is an ADS-B based traffic information service called TIS-B. The ADS-B ground stations relay this information between the two channels so that suitably equipped aircraft can receive traffic information. To limit channel congestion these services are only provided to aircraft equipped to receive them. The transponder reports what receivers are installed in a periodic status message. If the aircraft has ADSB in receiver, set either 1090ES or UAT to installed. There are two selections to make here: 1090 MHz Receiver Installed – Yes/No, and UAT Receiver Installed – Yes/No. Press selector knob to move to the next menu item."

This is a great example of the capability of the 231 with an intercooler and merlyn wastegate:

If your battery is a Gill battery and it's been in there awhile, you probably need a new battery. Switch to Concorde 24-15M for much better service.

The infinite settings on the electric cowl flaps are great on late J, K models (252 and Encore) and M models . . until the cowl flap motor goes. I think the motors are more readily available than when I was trying back in '14.

It wouldn't hurt to read these over:

Is there any echo in here . . lol? The 28 volt electrical system was also a nice upgrade on the 252's from the 231's.

Mooney made 889 231's from 1979-1985. They made 231 252's from 1986-1990 and just 35 Encores from 1997-1998. It's a challenge to find a 252 with the dual alternators in great shape that hasn't been converted to a Rocket (TSIO-520). It's nearly impossible to find an Encore. (The first eight '97 Encores were called 252's until the FAA approved the GW increase of 230 pounds, then they were called Encores.) Model Chronology.pdf My first Mooney was a 10 year old 231 (#759 - '83 model). New this airplane would have been probably a little over $100,000. I paid $83,000 for it 10 years later. Later on in 2014 I owned a 17 year old spotless Encore (#12 - '97 model). There were a lot of upgrades from the 231 to the Encore, but by the time these were re-introduced in 1997 the price had gone up considerably. ($387,000 and the owner added TKS on top of that, so around $430,000). In 14 years from 1983 a loaded K model had gone from just over $100,000 to almost $400,000. Economy of scale was not working well for Mooney who had been producing a few airplanes a day in the late 70's down to 154 airplanes in total in 1983, down to 92 airplanes total in 1997. N40FM FACTORY INVOICE.pdf I took care of a few little things after I bought it during the year I owned it. When I sold it the buyer had a pre-buy done by Don Maxwell. Don went over it with a fine tooth comb and told me it was the first pre-buy he had ever done where he couldn't find one squawk. He was a little disappointed . . lol. I know, I probably should have never sold it. But if we're talking best bang for the buck though (speed & value for the dollar) find the best, most well kept example of a later model 231 that has an aftermarket intercooler and a Merlyn wastegate. It will do almost everything that the 252 or Encore will do for considerably less money. M20k_review_AvConsumer_Mar2010.pdf

I edited my post to include the Service Bulletin.

Now no matter how you calculate (or Calcutta-u-late), he's half way . . .

I like Brian's math.

Same options for an Ovation (M20R) as for a Bravo (M20M)

In 2009 at Sun N' Fun Mooney had a checkered flag paint scheme on the tail. Should anyone who has painted that scheme on their Mooney tail since then and has copied a design which Mooney paid for be openly disparaged on this forum? If I remember correctly when others showed off their paint jobs on here, all they received was praise. Mooney used to have a design tool on their website to come up with a paint and color scheme. If you used that and designed something you liked, painted your airplane that way, but didn't buy a new Mooney or pay them for their design, would that be wrong? Does Scheme Designers pay Mooney a licensing fee every time they do something that comes close to ones of the designs Mooney has used in the past? I think it boils down to this: Some people want every detail exact and are more than willing to pay a company to do all of the work involved. Others are satisfied with a general design that updates the airplane and makes it look newer. They didn't contract with a company to design every detail and provide files for their paint shop. With all of the paint jobs that have been shared on Mooneyspace I can't imagine why people are singling out and vilifying JClemens and then further attacking his character in a much more broad sense in every thing he does. He had his airplane painted in a general 2000's Mooney design that is on many airplanes. It looks great. Can we be happy for him and move on?

I hate to burst the bubble, but here's what was on the schedule for Friday July 29, 2016

I doubt you'll find the differences between a King KX155 and a King KX155A on the Garmin site. This is not a drop in replacement by the way.