jetdriven Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 Yep dude it's horrifying. I flew my last trip I to Bagram 6 months ago on the 747. Cargo shift is about the worst thing that can happen.
flyboy0681 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Posted May 2, 2013 One could only imagine what was going through their minds. Watching it frame-by-frame you can see the landing gear coming down, which makes me think they thought they could recover and get her down safely. What a tragedy.
jetdriven Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 I don't think the landng gear even came up. All they could do was push forward and ride the lightning We've lost 3 747s in the past couple of years on the cargo side. Plus a 707 an MD-11 and others. The FAA preaches "one level of safety" but how many wide body passenger airliners were lost in that same time frame. It ain't the pilots either.
flight2000 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 I saw it last night and a very cold chill went up my spine. Not many realize the number of civilian aircraft that are flown into and out of Afghanistan every day. The Air Force simply does not have enough airframes to move the mountain of stuff we use/need over there so we rely on contracted air carriers to suppliment the USAF. I was amazed at the number of PC-12's, King Air's, Dash 8's, and B747's that rolled out in front of me as I sat on the ramp waiting for my ride home at 0400 in the morning....and those were just the civilian aircraft. Add in the C5's, C17's, and C130's (oops, almost forgot the A-10 squadrons based there) and Bagram is a really busy place. Everyday, the flights come and go, 24/7. To think we haven't seen more accidents is a testament to the professional military AND civilian pilots that fly these missions. Bagram is worse then trying to get into and out of Denver as the terrain is very hostile with Bagram being, essentially located at the bottom of a bowl at ~6,000 feet. RIP to the crew and peace for the families of those that died. Can't imagine what they are going through as these images are posted on the news... Brian
Mooneymite Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 Of interest.... http://www.examiner.com/article/national-releases-facts-prior-to-boeing-747-crash-afghanistan
usafhaynes1 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 My AF buddy also said they lost another aircraft that flies 24/7 over there as well. Prayers to the family of both crews.
201er Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 How can the cargo shift far enough for it to matter like this? Unless the plane is relatively empty and something really heavy moves?
chrisk Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 Wow! My first thought were: This can't be real! Why are the wheels down? Looks like a stall. I wonder if it was the cargo, engine, or something else. I better not let my daughter see this, or she is never getting in the plane with me agian.
fantom Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 Five Americans were on that plane The loadmaster might have known something. Get the nose down, pray, and get ready to meet your maker.
flyboy0681 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Posted May 2, 2013 What's truly amazing is how the plane lost all forward motion and literally drops.
aerobat95 Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 This gave me chills watching....I had a weight shift in the KC-135....in my incident there was a failed valve that allowed 10-15K worth of fuel go to the aft tank....we ran out of nose down trim and had to keep foward stick pressure to maintain level flight....our CG went close to 50% aft....watching that video made me think of what could of happened....I wonder what sort of cargo was on board...I thought I read somewhere that there were vehicles in the back....
davidsguerra Posted May 3, 2013 Report Posted May 3, 2013 Nose heavy planes fly poorly, tail heavy planes fly once... RIP
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