No turning back now!

[Brian2034]

Finally getting around to starting the MVP 50 install

Spent a couple days removing the unneeded instruments and 50 years of unused wiring and garbage.

There’s no turning back now

Also moving the number 2 nav/com and transponder from the right side to the center radio stack.

[AJ88V]

Very cool.  Amazing how many things one modern engine monitor can replace.

Good luck!

[Fritz1]

Monitor is in my future, how did you decide between the MVP and the large JPI, think the large one is called the 930

[Brian2034]

Yes, even though you read the information on the engine monitor about what it can replace and you sit in the plane and visualize. Until you start removing stuff you don’t realize how much is removed!

[Brian2034]

5 minutes ago, Fritz1 said:

Monitor is in my future, how did you decide between the MVP and the large JPI, think the large one is called the 930

From what I remember when I was reviewing both the MVP and the JPI I think the JPI does have a slightly larger screen. But from the feedback I read through on this site and other sites it seemed like the majority where in favour of the MVP, when I spoke with both companies EI gave me a better vibe.
Their customer service through emails was outstanding!
While I was working  through the forms they send you to fill out, I would email with questions and the response was almost instantaneous! If I called I would always reach someone who could answer my questions and usually it was the same person each time.
When I submitted the forms, I received a response within a hour or two with additional questions. I’m not sure how large a company EI. is or how many employees they have but it’s nice feeling to speak to a familiar voice when you have questions or concerns.

The size of the screen was always a question for me, not having enough screen size to display all the information at once and or it being to small to see easily.
But when you actually hold the monitor up in your own plane and see how large it is compared to the original gages I think there should be no issues with either the MVP or the JPI and their screen size.

[Brian2034]

19 minutes ago, Brian2034 said:

From what I remember when I was reviewing both the MVP and the JPI I think the JPI does have a slightly larger screen. But from the feedback I read through on this site and other sites it seemed like the majority where in favour of the MVP, when I spoke with both companies EI gave me a better vibe.
Their customer service through emails was outstanding!
While I was working  through the forms they send you to fill out, I would email with questions and the response was almost instantaneous! If I called I would always reach someone who could answer my questions and usually it was the same person each time.
When I submitted the forms, I received a response within a hour or two with additional questions. I’m not sure how large a company EI. is or how many employees they have but it’s nice feeling to speak to a familiar voice when you have questions or concerns.

The size of the screen was always a question for me, not having enough screen size to display all the information at once and or it being to small to see easily.
But when you actually hold the monitor up in your own plane and see how large it is compared to the original gages I think there should be no issues with either the MVP or the JPI and their screen size.

Thinking back when I ordered the MVP the list price was  better then the JPI 930 and also EI came out with a $1000 dollar rebate which sealed the deal!

[Fritz1]

Thank you Brian, that makes it clearer already, my thinking was that the JPI was the more established unit, but the MVP 50 has more programming options, I have a JPI 700, only downside of the JPI was that the alarms are fixed, so you cannot get rid of any, the only limit that I might be bumping against is the rpm limit of 2575 now and then, maybe irrelevant, will talk to my installer, see what he thinks. -Fritz

[Brian2034]

No problem 

So far EI has been great but I’m sure JPI are the same. Like I said both companies units looked great. I really don’t know the main reason for going with the EI unit other than gut feeling from what I could find from others posts on this and other forums.

My plane needed an upgrade and I believe if your on a budget the engine monitor should be your first choice. 

[Echo]

Putting the old adage "It's never too late" to the test here.  

[Brian2034]

23 hours ago, Brian2034 said:

Finally getting around to starting the MVP 50 install

Spent a couple days removing the unneeded instruments and 50 years of unused wiring and garbage.

There’s no turning back now

Also moving the number 2 nav/com and transponder from the right side to the center radio stack.

I’ve looked through the download section and the CAD drawings I’ve found look like they are cut around the yoke shaft. Why are they leaving the original piece of the panel around the yoke? 
 

[Yetti]

2 hours ago, Brian2034 said:

I’ve looked through the download section and the CAD drawings I’ve found look like they are cut around the yoke shaft. Why are they leaving the original piece of the panel around the yoke? 
 

Because the lower support behind the panel is below the yoke shaft. But cutting a slot is the way to go.

Edited Sunday at 10:35 PM by Yetti

[Brian2034]

The “lower support” in my 63 C is round tubing that goes from the co-pilot side fuselage cage to the pilot side.

The instrument panel is through bolted to the tubing at the bottom of the panel and around the windscreen it’s attached to an aluminum flange with screws and nuts. The yoke bearing plate is mounted to the instrument panel also with screws and nuts. Why cut a slot in a new panel around the yoke when you can replace the complete right side instrument panel with the yoke mount included. Same as the factory panel less the 50 plus years of holes hacked in it???

 

[Brian2034]

Does anyone have a Cad or Solid Works file for the instrument panel?
Been through the download section and didn’t find anything, might have missed it?

[carusoam]

15 minutes ago, Brian2034 said:

Does anyone have a Cad or Solid Works file for the instrument panel?
Been through the download section and didn’t find anything, might have missed it?

A few years ago…

there was a sheet metal shop around here that would share their drawings and cut the panel for you…

they had some Mooney standards on their website…

as far as JPI vs. EI go…

JPI was first, and has a lot of early adopters… trying to get questions answered is near impossible…

EI has a presence here… getting questions answered… it is easy to know who to ask.

neither is bad… just one company is better than the other…

 

also consider the Garmin engine monitor… it is highly integrated including flight recording attributes… if you are a big G fan…

 

Best regards,

-a-

[Brian2034]

Already have the MVP sitting on the bench

 I don’t want to start from scratch on the panel, if I can get a Cad file for the basic panel shape it definitely would speed up the process.