Horis Posted Sunday at 03:19 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:19 PM anyone have an idea of a cost on replacing the landing gear biscuits on a Bravo? Quote
exM20K Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Parts: $3300 Labor: 8 hours October 2024 at a large shop in Chicagoland. parts included spacer assemblies all around. -dan 1 Quote
Vance Harral Posted Sunday at 04:54 PM Report Posted Sunday at 04:54 PM "Nice time machine you've built there. You going to go back in time and invest in Apple? Nvidia?" "Nah. Mooney landing gear doughnuts". 1 Quote
IvanP Posted Sunday at 07:45 PM Report Posted Sunday at 07:45 PM August 2023 11 new Lord discs $2,178 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted Sunday at 07:48 PM Report Posted Sunday at 07:48 PM 2 minutes ago, IvanP said: August 2023 11 new Lord discs $2,178 So they are twice that now. That was a long time ago…. 1 Quote
1980Mooney Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM Report Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM 28 minutes ago, IvanP said: August 2023 11 new Lord discs $2,178 Is that parts + installed labor and tax or just the cost of Lord discs? Quote
IvanP Posted Sunday at 09:09 PM Report Posted Sunday at 09:09 PM That was for parts only, no tax, no labor. This was part of larger project on the plane so I do not know exaclty how much labor was for the shocks alone. I have the Mooney gear tools and if I recall correctly, it took us about 6 hours or so to replace and rig the gear. 1 Quote
1980Mooney Posted Monday at 12:50 AM Report Posted Monday at 12:50 AM 1 hour ago, N201MKTurbo said: So they are twice that now. That was a long time ago…. So no - that is wrong. - Actually the price is stable @IvanP $2,178 in Aug. 2024 was only for shock discs. @exM20K Oct. 2024 parts price of $3,300 included shock discs and spacer assemblies, which if they came from Mooney, were expensive. Aircraft Spruce has them ( Lord Landing Gear Shock Disk J-11968-14) in stock for $178 each. $178 x 11 = $1,958 (ship free on large orders) https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/lord-m20-mooney.php?clickkey=4860169 2 Quote
exM20K Posted Monday at 01:12 AM Report Posted Monday at 01:12 AM 7 minutes ago, 1980Mooney said: So no - that is wrong. - Actually the price is stable @IvanP $2,178 in Aug. 2024 was only for shock discs. @exM20K Oct. 2024 parts price of $3,300 included shock discs and spacer assemblies, which if they came from Mooney, were expensive. Aircraft Spruce has them ( Lord Landing Gear Shock Disk J-11968-14) in stock for $178 each. $178 x 11 = $1,958 (ship free on large orders) https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/lord-m20-mooney.php?clickkey=4860169 As I wrote originally, there were also spacers all the way around and other miscellaneous parts. Yes, the shop may mark up parts from wholesale, and that is ok w/ me within a subjective “reasonableness” range. I remember well a rather, um, animated conversation with Joe Frisolone when he was DOM at East Coast Aviation at KBED. I ordered a new or rebuilt engine from AirPower and expected him to receive it, uncrate it, and install it for the cost of labor. This was before I bought my first business. 20-some years later, I have a keener understanding of the challenges associated with operating a business and strive to be a good customer. -dan 2 Quote
Schllc Posted Monday at 09:53 AM Report Posted Monday at 09:53 AM 8 hours ago, exM20K said: As I wrote originally, there were also spacers all the way around and other miscellaneous parts. Yes, the shop may mark up parts from wholesale, and that is ok w/ me within a subjective “reasonableness” range. I remember well a rather, um, animated conversation with Joe Frisolone when he was DOM at East Coast Aviation at KBED. I ordered a new or rebuilt engine from AirPower and expected him to receive it, uncrate it, and install it for the cost of labor. This was before I bought my first business. 20-some years later, I have a keener understanding of the challenges associated with operating a business and strive to be a good customer. -dan I read an interesting little anecdote in a shop the other day… ”every 20 minute job is one broken nut away from a three day nightmare”. 4 1 Quote
KSMooniac Posted Monday at 07:32 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:32 PM 9 hours ago, Schllc said: I read an interesting little anecdote in a shop the other day… ”every 20 minute job is one broken nut away from a three day nightmare”. There is a meme of a defeated looking guy sitting in his driveway next to a car on jacks, partially disassembled, with the caption something along the lines of "that look when you're 8 hours into a 30 minute job" 1 Quote
dkkim73 Posted Monday at 09:06 PM Report Posted Monday at 09:06 PM 11 hours ago, Schllc said: ”every 20 minute job is one broken nut away from a three day nightmare”. Hey!!! I resemble that remark. 1 Quote
Aerodon Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM On 12/22/2024 at 7:19 AM, Horis said: anyone have an idea of a cost on replacing the landing gear biscuits on a Bravo? Horis, I see you have a 1994 M20M. I'm curious to how many hours you have on the donuts and if you have any pictures. Original donuts?, you should be able to read the dates on them somewhere? Are you changing on calendar time or condition? And is the nose gear worse than the main gear? Don Quote
geoffb Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM (edited) Just did my mains. Spruce has donuts in stock at $177/ea. Couldn't find a better price. So $1,4xx for 8 Did them myself under supervision, first time. Didn't have 8 hours in the job, soup to nuts including some flailing around. So an experienced shop, with paperwork shouldn't be more than one man-day. That included disassembly (with inner gear doors), clean, visual and dye pen inspection of the tower and bolt. I understand the nose gear is a bigger pain.... Edited Tuesday at 08:04 PM by geoffb Quote
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