Nukemzzz Posted February 5, 2022 Report Posted February 5, 2022 Hey guys, So during the annual we spotted a pivot that has a little bit of play in it. The bolt seems to wiggle a little as well. I’ve not been able to find an exploded view of this pivot joint, but I suspect there is a bushing inside and there must be spacer sleeve on this bolt (or it’s a shoulder bolt) so it can be torqued and the mechanism still pivots. I also suspect that the bolt is just threaded into that backing plate. Does this sound about right? We are probably going to take it apart and inspect Does anyone have any experience with this pivot joint? Came across an exploded view? Standard torque for the fastener size and type(I’m not finding a torque in the vintage manual)? Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 5, 2022 Report Posted February 5, 2022 I’ve found the bolts ware more than the bushings. Bolts are cheap. 2 Quote
PT20J Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 Here’s a picture for a M20J. Probably similar. Quote
Utah20Gflyer Posted February 6, 2022 Report Posted February 6, 2022 There is a bolt, a bushing and the retraction truss. The bolt is a couple dollars, the bushing is about 30 dollars. Lasar should have them. I just replaced all of those bushings and bolts, etc about a month ago. Quote
Nukemzzz Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Posted February 6, 2022 Thanks guys. Will take a closer look now. Quote
Jsno Posted February 7, 2022 Report Posted February 7, 2022 Its in the IPC: Bushing Part Number is 914020-17, Bolt AN26-17, 2 each Washers AN960-616, Nut AN320-6, Cotter Pin AN320-3-3. Quote
Guest Posted February 7, 2022 Report Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 12:14 PM, Nukemzzz said: Thanks guys. Will take a closer look now. This might help. The parts are listed under item 17. Bolt 17 screws into an anchor nut on the spar and is safety wired to #14 Clarence Quote
47U Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 7:10 PM, Nukemzzz said: Does this sound about right? At my first annual all gear torque values were all low. After I got them in spec, my main gear doors weren’t flush to the wing. I looked for slop in the retraction system and called Dan at LASAR with a list of prospective part numbers. He sent me the collection below, which set me back about .3 amu… that was in 2013. 1 Quote
Vance Harral Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 I went through a similar exercise a few years ago. You might find this thread I posted at the time helpful: 1 Quote
Vance Harral Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 A neuron fired, and I remembered the one other thing I wanted to contribute to this thread. The IPC specs ordinary AN hardware for the landing gear side brace bolts; but AD 78-15-02 requires following the instructions in SB M20-212 to replace those with NAS 1306 high strength bolts, see https://www.mooney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SBM20-212.pdf. If you're ordering new hardware for these bolts, order the NAS 1306 hardware, not the AN hardware spec'd in the IPC. If you order your hardware from LASAR, they'll likely send the correct hardware. If you're just ordering from Aircraft Spruce based on the IPC, you can wind up accidentally un-doing an AD. 5 1 Quote
carusoam Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Great neurons Vance! Thanks for the added details! Best regards, -a- Quote
Nukemzzz Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Posted February 12, 2022 Oh wow. Great info guys. Thanks so much. Quote
Nukemzzz Posted February 12, 2022 Author Report Posted February 12, 2022 Interesting... that AD and SB only applies to the F and J models. Means i shouldn't bother or can't do it? (Mine is an M20E) Quote
Vance Harral Posted February 12, 2022 Report Posted February 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, Nukemzzz said: Interesting... that AD and SB only applies to the F and J models. Means i shouldn't bother or can't do it? I hadn't realized the SB was only applicable to F and J models. My guess is that's due to the higher gross weight of 2740 lbs in the F/J, vs. the 2575 lb gross of the C/D/E. Higher weights put more force on the gear. Quote
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