TIRADE OVER HOUSTON

[Parker_Woodruff]

Everybody WD-40 your mic button.

http://www.click2houston.com/video/28313494/index.html

 

[Parker_Woodruff]

Ooops.....as much as I would love to call myself Parker..He didn't post this. That's whacked...But I'll tell you what, you could park that sweet low time 252 in MY hangar!!

 

[Parker_Woodruff]

OK now it's me...Bizarre.........

[Parker_Woodruff]

Post #3 wasn't me...but this is Parker Woodruff posting as Parker Woodruff in post 4

[Parker_Woodruff]

Me...N4352H posting the Houston link........Houston we have a problem. Tried twice...Let's see this time.

 

[Parker_Woodruff]

Still F'ed up. I will no longer make posts until I have tested   N4352H.

[mooniac58]

If you are logged in as someone else hit the logout button in the upper right and login again.  Sorry this is a bug in the forum system (the part I did not program) and fixing it has proven tricky.

[John Pleisse]

There...better... Sorry Parker.

[N33GG]

I once had a stuck mic button and didn't know it.  Fortunately, all everyone heard was an excellent description of the proper way to land a Navion.  Free flight instruction for the masses.  Still left me red faced.

[fantom]

Parker is getting to pad his post count due to this SW bug ;-)

[sleepingsquirrel]

There was an instructor at our field who had a lunch time lesson with good looking woman. Of course the rumor was that there was some romantic involvement for him to instruct while he had his lunch in the plane. Well, one day while the lesson was going on a little turbuence caused him to drop his sandwich. He accidently keyed the mike with his knee as he retrieved the sandwich just in time for her to exclaim,"You're not going to eat that nasty thing are you?".

 

[Becca]

Caveman.  I hope he gets fired.  I am sure he's not the only one who has expressed these sentiments just the only one stupid enough to get recorded doing it on the job, but maybe a public and rigid disciplining will be a lesson to other pilots to get their act together and stop behaving like heathens.  Maybe even make the cockpit a more welcoming place to women pilots than it is right now

 

 

[rob]

I've heard flight attendants (and female pilots) speak similarly about the male pilot population...

[Becca]

@Rob, and whatever cavemen (or women) stuff is said in the bar and hotel is their business.  But when they are on the clock (male or female) saying something that offensive, they should be adequately disciplined.  I bet many conversations like that have occured in the workplace in front of coworkers that would rather not be subjected to that kind of tirade and because of lack of a recording, nothing could be done about it.  Maybe this will lead to more conscientiousness.  I can't imagine that type of talk being acceptable in a non-flying workplace (it certainly wouldn't be in mine), it doesn't belong in the commercial airplane either. 

[jax88]

Whew!  Had that been "Tirade Over Tucson" I'd have been worried someone caught me cursing the turbulence and smoke on the way out to Vegas last week.

[Shadrach]

This guy will not be fired...while obnoxious and unprofessional he did nothing that would give his employer the legal wherewithal to fire him...

[fantom]

Just because he's a non PC jerk doesn't mean he should lose his job and livelihood.

Out of place - yes, stupid - sure, offensive - no doubt. A lot worse is said every day by some members of ALL the groups in question, BUT adequate discipline is not to fire him, or them. Trying to force altered attitudes, better behavior, enlightened views, or different values on others' via threat of job loss or civil legal action is, IMHO, just as wrong as what the pilot said, and doesn't work anyway.

[Parker_Woodruff]

Actually, Shadrach, Texas is an "Employment At-Will" state which means an employer can fire an employee for good cause, bad cause, or no cause.  An employer can really only get into trouble if the "bad cause" is discriminatory.

[Parker_Woodruff]

Actually, Shadrach, Texas is an "Employment At-Will" state which means an employer can fire an employee for good cause, bad cause, or no cause.  An employer can really only get into trouble if the "bad cause" is discriminatory.

[Shadrach]

So you're saying that he's not union, because it's Texas?  No collective bargaining agreement? SWA can fire any pilot, mx tech or FA on the spot with no cause?

[DaV8or]

Just an airline employee bitching about his benifits package. Sad fool thought being an airline captain meant he would be sleeping with a bunch of hot stewardesses. The reality seems to be different. They should play this tape at the flight school academys and see how many young guys quit. 

This story falls right in line with all the news stories about drunk airline pilots and the guys that flew 100 miles past the airport. Not painting a pretty picture for the paying public. Maybe it is time to just let the computers fly the plane.

[Parker_Woodruff]

Ross: "So you're saying that he's not union, because it's Texas?  No collective bargaining agreement? SWA can fire any pilot, mx tech or FA on the spot with no cause?"

 

Well, does the union have it negotiated that someone has to be fired for good reason?

I wasn't inferring that he's union or not.  All I know is that in Texas you can typically be fired for any reason and have no legal action taken against you, unless it's for a "stupid" reason - like racism, gender descrimination, etc.  The only whistleblower

Reason I ask the first question is don't confuse "employment at will" with "Right to Work".

See this website: http://www.robertslawoffices.com/wrongful_termination.html

In Texas, employees are presumed to be hired "at will".  This means either the employer or the employee may terminate the employment relationship at any time, for any reason, so long as that reason is not one prohibited by contract, statute, or common law.

For example, under Texas law, an employer is generally prohibited from terminating the employment of:

1. 
   
2. An employee because of race, color, disability, religion, national origin, age, or sex.
   
3. An employee for filing a workers’ compensation claim.
   
4. A permanent employee because of active-duty service or training in the military forces of Texas or any other state.
   
5. A permanent employee for serving on a jury.
   
6. An employee for having a child-support withholding order against the employee.
   
7. An employee for taking time off to vote or to attend a political convention, or for refusing to vote in a certain way.
   
8. An employee for using the Worker’s Commission’s toll-free telephone service to report a violation of an occupational health or safety law.
   
9. An employee without good cause while labor arbitration pursuant to the Texas Labor Arbitration Act is pending.
   
10. An employee for refusing to buy certain merchandise (e.g., from a company store).
    
11. An employee for refusing to take an AIDS test, unless the test is necessary as a bona fide occupational qualification.
    
12. An employee of a state or local governmental unit for whistleblowing.
    
13. A hospital, nursing-home, mental-health-facility, or treatment-facility employee for whistleblowing.
    

[Parker_Woodruff]

Note that the nursing home facility deal was some legislation that was enacted after someone was fired after whistleblowing an improper workplace condition.

[John Pleisse]

He is in violation of FCC Laws on the cursing alone. Nevermind the morally repugnant behavior and marring the image of his employer. They'll can him. SWA (and the whole industry) has too many good 737 people ready for a left seat job. Dropping F-Bombs from FL 230....real smooth.

[danb35]

Not being privy to the details of the collective bargaining agreement, I'd be willing to bet that there are provisions in there for what constitutes acceptable grounds for termination.  As to whether they'll can him, seems highly unlikely--they've already suspended him (without pay) and subsequently reinstated him.  Sounds like their punishment is done.