KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 These are the throttle quadrant knobs removed from my '77 J for engine control upgrade. They show a little wear, but are perfectly functional and have been hangared their whole life. $75 plus shipping for all of them, or $75 for one... your choice! I believe someone was looking for one a few months ago, but I forget who... I also have some other console parts or the quadrant guts available if anyone might need something. Quote
Hank Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Do you have the cover for the quadrant that the knobs slide back and forth on? The cabin end of mine is broken off. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Do you have the cover for the quadrant that the knobs slide back and forth on? The cabin end of mine is broken off. Hank, I do have it, but I bet it is slightly different than your cover. I've posted a pic on here before... lemme see if I can find it. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Here are pictures of the quadrant cover I have. They changed over the years, unfortunately! The rectangular cutout was for my ELT switch. Quote
Hank Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Now I'm gonna have to check mine against your pictures. While it's installed. Memory says the front (towards the cabin) didn't go so far down the pedestal, and I'm not sure about the skinny slot. My ELT switch is on the right panel, all the way over. But it should fill nicely anyway, right? Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 These are the throttle quadrant knobs removed from my '77 J for engine control upgrade. They show a little wear, but are perfectly functional and have been hangared their whole life. $75 plus shipping for all of them, or $75 for one... your choice! I believe someone was looking for one a few months ago, but I forget who... I also have some other console parts or the quadrant guts available if anyone might need something. I was the one looking for the mixture one. Mine cracked. One of our members made one for me. You going to post some pictures of your finished project? Would love to move over to verniers. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Soon, I hope! And then you'll likely be much happier with your quadrant! Seriously, it has been 5x the amount of work I thought before starting. I've probably got 100 hours in it so far. Labor of love, though. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Soon, I hope! And then you'll likely be much happier with your quadrant! Seriously, it has been 5x the amount of work I thought before starting. I've probably got 100 hours in it so far. Labor of love, though. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk I often wondered what was taking you so long! 100 hours of labor will do it! You know firsthand the challenges of the quadrant. Besides banging your knee getting in and out, gobbling up real estate - I was always irritated that I couldn't precisely set anything. Wonder if it will be a dramatic difference for you. Quote
Mooneymite Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 You know firsthand the challenges of the quadrant. Besides banging your knee getting in and out, gobbling up real estate - I was always irritated that I couldn't precisely set anything. Different strokes for different folk..... I really like my quadrant controls. I would consider going to verniers a step backward! I'm not sure why you have trouble with precise settings. What can't you set precisely and why? For me an added benefit is that the throttle movement is the same as the larger aircraft I fly for work. If I suddenly need max power, pushing everything forward is one, easy hand sweep. But.....like Hank, I'd like to find a throttle quadrant cover. 3 Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Different strokes for different folk..... I really like my quadrant controls. I would consider going to verniers a step backward! I'm not sure why you have trouble with precise settings. What can't you set precisely and why? For me an added benefit is that the throttle movement is the same as the larger aircraft I fly for work. If I suddenly need max power, pushing everything forward is one, easy hand sweep. But.....like Hank, I'd like to find a throttle quadrant cover. The go around is the easier, no doubt. It is the fine tuning. Ever try to hit an RPM exactly at 2,500? And if you did and needed to adjust the friction lock to allow for mixture adjustment, the prop or throttle would creep a little. That was what bothered me about the quadrant style. 1 Quote
Hank Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I always thought the pistol grip throttle with landing light button on top in the F is strange. Gus and I fly Cs, with nice throttles just like the one Scott is selling here. Personally, I like it, and I'd rather bang my knee on the quadrant [don't recall ever doing so] than on the pulled-all-the-way-out throttle knob. Quadrants are cool! It's not hard to get the MP or RPM needle set right where I want it, and I probably adjust the friction lock once a year. Maybe yours needs/needed some TLC. 2 Quote
Mooneymite Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 . Ever try to hit an RPM exactly at 2,500? . Ha! I don't have a digital tach. That explains it.....2500 RPM is "somewhere" on my mechanical tach. :-) Note to self: an upgrade to a digital tach will entail further modifications. Quote
mike_elliott Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Different strokes for different folk..... I really like my quadrant controls. I would consider going to verniers a step backward! I'm not sure why you have trouble with precise settings. What can't you set precisely and why? For me an added benefit is that the throttle movement is the same as the larger aircraft I fly for work. If I suddenly need max power, pushing everything forward is one, easy hand sweep. But.....like Hank, I'd like to find a throttle quadrant cover. I sent my old one to plane plastics and they made a "new" one, and sent them both back to me. It was about $50 or so at the time. Another thought Gus, is my old plane partner can possibly make one for you. PM me if you want his contact info. He was at the Summit II. 2 Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Ha! I don't have a digital tach. That explains it.....2500 RPM is "somewhere" on my mechanical tach. :-) Note to self: an upgrade to a digital tach will entail further modifications. Yep, the addition of the electronic MP and RPM killed my love affair with the quadrant. I can never, ever hit those numbers exactly. In the past, I didn't care, close was close enough... Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Here is a sample of the horror. This was in the middle of the original console removal, which is also the nose wheel well. Eventually EVERYTHING between the bottom of the instrument panel and the floor had to be removed and replaced with the newer J components. Nose wheel well, ventilation duct, engine controls, flap & trim indicator cables, etc. Not to mention the cutout in the floor is bigger on the '77, so I had to make a doubler to make the interface work. I also had to relocate the avionics cooling fan, gray code terminal strip, and backup battery for my electric artificial horizon. While I was in there, I replaced all of the vacuum tubing, ventilation tubing, and still need to replace the rudder pedal boots. I might take a second job as a contortionist at the freak show soon. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Here is a sample of the horror. This was in the middle of the original console removal, which is also the nose wheel well. Eventually EVERYTHING between the bottom of the instrument panel and the floor had to be removed and replaced with the newer J components. Nose wheel well, ventilation duct, engine controls, flap & trim indicator cables, etc. Not to mention the cutout in the floor is bigger on the '77, so I had to make a doubler to make the interface work. I also had to relocate the avionics cooling fan, gray code terminal strip, and backup battery for my electric artificial horizon. While I was in there, I replaced all of the vacuum tubing, ventilation tubing, and still need to replace the rudder pedal boots. I might take a second job as a contortionist at the freak show soon. 056.JPG Have I said I like my quadrant lately?! Holy crap Throttleman! 2 Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Different strokes for different folk..... I really like my quadrant controls. I would consider going to verniers a step backward! I'm not sure why you have trouble with precise settings. What can't you set precisely and why? For me an added benefit is that the throttle movement is the same as the larger aircraft I fly for work. If I suddenly need max power, pushing everything forward is one, easy hand sweep. But.....like Hank, I'd like to find a throttle quadrant cover. I found it very difficult to lean precisely with the quadrant. That was one reason, but not my primary. My two major reasons for the transformation were knee room (I have long legs) and allowing me to install the new EDM-900 on the lower, right corner of the panel on the pilot's side. I consider it too important to put it on the right side, and the quadrant throttle knob when fully forward (95% of my flight time!) obscures this location with the bigger instrument there. So, to put the 900 where I want it required this drastic measure. The transformation will also result in a weight savings of a few pounds, so that is nice. The '77 nose wheel well/console is MUCH more robust than the later parts, and the quadrant is heavier than the individual controls. No doubt that go-arounds are much easier with the quadrant, but I rarely need to do a go around, and I lean on every flight, so vernier precision is thus more important to me. 2 Quote
Marauder Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I found it very difficult to lean precisely with the quadrant. That was one reason, but not my primary. My two major reasons for the transformation were knee room (I have long legs) and allowing me to install the new EDM-900 on the lower, right corner of the panel on the pilot's side. I consider it too important to put it on the right side, and the quadrant throttle knob when fully forward (95% of my flight time!) obscures this location with the bigger instrument there. So, to put the 900 where I want it required this drastic measure. The transformation will also result in a weight savings of a few pounds, so that is nice. The '77 nose wheel well/console is MUCH more robust than the later parts, and the quadrant is heavier than the individual controls. No doubt that go-arounds are much easier with the quadrant, but I rarely need to do a go around, and I lean on every flight, so vernier precision is thus more important to me. Well said. My sentiments exactly. Quote
Mooneymite Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 .... the new EDM-900 Yep. There's something else I don't have. Wow! Throttle quadrants are really primitive. Quote
Hank Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Scott-- This is my quadrant. Not sure if yours will work. Gus, sometimes primitive is nice! Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Posted February 12, 2015 I think it is a different cover, unfortunately. My flap switch was in a different position and not part of the cover. We have the same flap & trim indicators, though. Quote
jetdriven Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Soon, I hope! And then you'll likely be much happier with your quadrant! Seriously, it has been 5x the amount of work I thought before starting. I've probably got 100 hours in it so far. Labor of love, though. Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Shit, 100 hours ! I only put 25 hours into the VOR blade antenna conversion on my 1977 J. Maybe I am the first to do this. IDK. But iI'll take the free knot Quote
Hank Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Yep. My levers are equally spaced, while on yours the throttle-prop space is wider than prop-mixture, too. Guess I'll give Plane Plastics a call. Is there a secret to getting the knobs off undamaged? That's mostly why I have t done it already. Quote
jetdriven Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 There's a barrel nut that fastens through both sides of the knob. IIRC they are both #3 standard flat screw heads. Quote
Marauder Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Scott-- This is my quadrant. Not sure if yours will work. Gus, sometimes primitive is nice! What the heck is that little quadrant under your power quadrant? Are those the heat and air controls? Quote
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