OP ED-"Little Timmy Wants to Know Why Nobody Likes Airplanes Anymore?

[flyboy0681]

Reading up on the conspiracy web sites, I see...

 

You'll find it under:

 

Kenyan

Communist

Atheist

Muslim

Socialist

Anti-American

Marxist

Anti-Semite

Anti-Business

Bleeding heart liberal

Tree hugger

[AndyFromCB]

Funny, the only think I see when I see Obama, is a center-right president who when asked by a Forture 500 CEO to jump, simply asks "How high, Sir?". Carl Marx must be rolling in his grave when they call a guy who gave Wall Street all they asked for and then some, a Socialist.

[flyboy0681]

Funny, the only think I see when I see Obama, is a center-right president who when asked by a Forture 500 CEO to jump, simply asks "How high, Sir?". Carl Marx must be rolling in his grave when they call a guy who gave Wall Street all they asked for and then some, a Socialist.

 

 

You, my friend, are obviously out of touch and don't tune into what the right-wing is saying.

 

I personally like the Muslim thing, especially since he was ostracized for belonging to Rev Wright's Christian church for many years.  My guess is that he couldn't find a mosque in Chicago.

[John Pleisse]

But most of all - E B O L A

 

Yes, and how is that going in Africa? Well, the way it went for the past 3-4 outbreaks from 1985 until now. It naturally ran it's course and it killed. In the three previous administrations, it was not part of our national agenda. The fear mongering began with a President and administration who viewed this as a national priority. There was a marked increase in the epedimc this time because populations there are growing exponentially. Per capita infection was comensurate to population growth.

 

So in the end, what do we have? The first President in history who made this his personal effort and inappropraitely, a national prioity. If it should not have been feared, why the preoccupation? This can be said for sure: as a direct result of the President's agenda, a hemorrhagic African virus from fruit bat bites and eating fruit bats, was intentionally allowed on American soil for the first time and exposed a staggering ineptitude at our CDC. The public was rightfully aroused. And where is that crazy red headed nurse from Maine, these days?

[alex]

Conspiracy? I think NOT!

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBlwUfIoDk

[flyboy0681]

So in the end, what do we have? The first President in history who made this his personal effort and inappropraitely, a national prioity. If it should not have been feared, why the preoccupation? This can be said for sure: as a direct result of the President's agenda, a hemorrhagic African virus from fruit bat bites and eating fruit bats, was intentionally allowed on American soil and exposed a staggering ineptitude at our CDC. The public was rightfully aroused.

 

Sorry, I take a completely different tact. He was pressured by the right-wing to do something about the upcoming catastrophic epidemic that was going to kill us all. If you noticed, he didn't appoint an Ebola "Czar" until there was bitching and moaning from the right, starting with McCain. If it weren't for them, I don't think he would have appointed one.

[alex]

...so the right wing has that much power over him?

[flyboy0681]

...so the right wing has that much power over him?

 

In this case, where people were running around like their hair was on fire - yes.

 

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/220622-gop-amplifies-calls-for-ebola-czar

[flyboy0681]

Spot on.

 

Although you admitted that you may have overreacted at the time (which was commendable), your early view of the situation is the same one that prompted the hysteria in Washington.

[flyboy0681]

Just put up my words Soundbite...DON'T interpret them. You are horrible at that.

 

Posted 26 November 2014 - 10:33 AM

Glad to be wrong about ebola and right about Badgers. 

[John Pleisse]

What happened in France happens here every month or so. But France was only 12 dead, Sandy Hook was 26. But at least the shooter wasn't Muslim, so no reason to fear.

 

 

OK, divert....moral equivalency.

[John Pleisse]

Sorry, I take a completely different tact. He was pressured by the right-wing to do something about the upcoming catastrophic epidemic that was going to kill us all. If you noticed, he didn't appoint an Ebola "Czar" until there was bitching and moaning from the right, starting with McCain. If it weren't for them, I don't think he would have appointed one.

 

Right....or "leading from behind". And in the face of right wing pressure to curb travel, protect the American public and have protections in place, he thumbed his nose. Which is it? OOOooooo...that's right, science vs. half of the electorate. Don't hear anyone second guessing Christie or Cuomo, do you?

[Guest]

Really? That is your "Main stream Conservative bash"? Obama is a closet Muslim supporter? Not in this house. Go float that boat in another pond.

Enabler to radical Islam? 100% right he is.

Terrorist. Can you say it Obama? T.E.R.R.O.R.I.S.T...

Nice job France. Keep your Guillitine sharpened. I think you are going to have to use it.

I am Charlie...

There is an easy fix to the problem with the Muslim extremists, " your countries are south and east of the Mediterranean, ours are north and west, you go home now and so will we. We have enough resources to get by without you.

Clarence

[AndyFromCB]

Really? That is your "Main stream Conservative bash"? Obama is a closet Muslim supporter? Not in this house. Go float that boat in another pond.

Enabler to radical Islam? 100% right he is.

Terrorist. Can you say it Obama? T.E.R.R.O.R.I.S.T...

Nice job France. Keep your Guillitine sharpened. I think you are going to have to use it.

I am Charlie...

 

How does he enable radical islam? Not being sarcastic, trying to understand. We blew up more of them under his command than the prior 8 years combined. The number of drone strikes on high value targets trippled. Are you referring to withdraw form Iraq? 

[AndyFromCB]

There is a high cost for freedom.

 

So if France had more freedom then, it would happen more often, then? Well, then, maybe less "freedom" is a solution, since to me it really does not matter if I get shot my an American or Yemeni. I am equally dead in the end.

 

BTW, the above is a fallacy, as the French already have some of the highest gun ownership in the world, believe or not. I believe somewhere at #5 in the world. I would attribute less shooting in France to culture, not to lack of access to guns.

[AndyFromCB]

We agree to disagree then. If the people up above were shooting, not with their camera's, but with bullets...If the police responding had been armed they wouldn't of been lying on the ground with their hands up only to be shot.

Do they institutionalize their mentally imbalanced?

 

They probably have better healthcare system  , definitely for an average, not wealthy citizen so access to mental health is easier and guns while readily available, do take a few more hops to jump thru than USA.

 

Do you by any chance remember police responding a bank robbery few years back in LA. Same situation. Two well armed, well protected targets. The police were sitting ducks until heavy weaponry arrived. Handguns don't stand a chance again rifles and body armor. There would have been a few more dead cops.

[AndyFromCB]

Are we at War? What is the mission?

Are our borders secure?

Are we releasing enemy combatants to then put a bounty on their head?

Where is the leadership to defeat the enemy?

Sneaky drone strikes aren't going to defeat radical Islamists...

 

Border security aside, as Obama has deported more criminal aliens than GWB and Clinton combined, what do you propose is the solution. We cannot invade France or Britain. 

 

As to border, what's the difference between Obama and GWB and Clinton. It's more or less the same as before. I understand you don't like the guy, but I for the life of me do not see any major policy change from him vs before. I see him no more a hero to the left than GWB was a hero to the right.

[flyboy0681]

 

 

As to border, what's the difference between Obama and GWB and Clinton. It's more or less the same as before. I understand you don't like the guy, but I for the life of me do not see any major policy change from him vs before. I see him no more a hero to the left than GWB was a hero to the right.

 

Damn it, you're not supposed to mention past administrations here.

[AndyFromCB]

LEAD.

 

Buzzwords. Tell me what you see as a solution. 

[rob]

Anyone care to comment on the shooting IN A GUN SHOP in Kansas today? 

 

Ya know, because the bad guys won't go anywhere unless its a gun free zone?

 

Shop owner dead. 

[AndyFromCB]

Be more Washington than Obama

Be more Lincoln than Obama

Be more Kennedy than Obama

Lead.

 

Once again, no concrete answers. ISIS is not an existential threat to US of A, like what Washington or Lincoln faced. And read up on Kennedy. He was pretty useless and the whole bay of pigs causes missile crisis was resolved mostly due to luck. He did give good speeches though. Ike did't, but he accomplished a hell of a lot behind the scenes as history now shows.

 

Sometimes there is nothing to do other than what is already being done behind the scenes at CIA, NSA, FBI and Military. And yes, good intelligence collection, combined with precision airstrikes and special forces operations and starving them financially is about the only thing we can do against none state actors. Works a lot better than wishing you can implement a democracy in an artificial middle eastern country called Iraq by force. I predicted the whole Iraq fiasco down to a T in 2003…All I had to do is take a look at the map (straight line borders), ethnic make up and read a bit of history. Apparently nobody in the white house bothered. ISIS is our very own creation. We made this mess and it goes back to right after WWII and continuous from there. Radical islam traces back to Saudi Arabia, our "ally".

[flyboy0681]

Anything to this other than sour grapes?

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/does-obama-deserve-credit-for-economy-114107.html

[flyboy0681]

Interesting tidbit on why one of the Paris attackers decided to join the jihad:

 

In the 2007 French court documents, Cherif Kouachi stated in a deposition, "I was ready to go and die in battle," and "I got this idea when I saw the injustices shown by television on what was going on over there. I am speaking about the torture that the Americans have inflicted on the Iraqis."

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/europe/cherif-kouachi-court-documents/

[flyboy0681]

You go snuggle up to Berry and what has been wrought over the last six years. Austerity is a fine word. Punishing bad decisions/leadership and unions that force them is a good thing. Hitting the "reset" button vs. to big to fail and propping up and enrichening those that caused the meltdown MY preferred tactic. Wasting trillions of dollars on government growth and crony nepotism a HUGE failure. A complete lack of attention to SS a ticking timebomb. Printing money and letting the FED prop up greed and failure rather than re-setting WRONG. Flat wages...with inflation going backward for millions of worker-bees...

Yeah, I have something other than sour grapes to define the Obama Legacy...

Yeah, "FREE" Junior College Tuition....BILLION's price tag to feds and state....Yeah!!!!!

NOPE.

 

But other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the show?

[flyboy0681]

You go snuggle up to Berry and what has been wrought over the last six years. Austerity is a fine word. Punishing bad decisions/leadership and unions that force them is a good thing. Hitting the "reset" button vs. to big to fail and propping up and enrichening those that caused the meltdown MY preferred tactic. Wasting trillions of dollars on government growth and crony nepotism a HUGE failure. A complete lack of attention to SS a ticking timebomb. Printing money and letting the FED prop up greed and failure rather than re-setting WRONG. Flat wages...with inflation going backward for millions of worker-bees...

Yeah, I have something other than sour grapes to define the Obama Legacy...

Yeah, "FREE" Junior College Tuition....BILLION's price tag to feds and state....Yeah!!!!!

NOPE.

 

 

Well, the author did say that regressives would not believe any of it, so you fit right into the profile.