OP ED-"Little Timmy Wants to Know Why Nobody Likes Airplanes Anymore?

[alex]

I'm not implying anything, I just find you annoying and petty that's all.

[Guest]

Stay tuned, post 1500 on the way!

Clarence

[bumper]

1500, and not one by me - - amazing.

 

I was a cop in Oakland through the 70's, some in my extended family and friends are in law enforcement. All the cops I knew then and now were or are professional. If there was racial bias, they did not allow it to affect how they interacted with people.

 

When I was a rookie, I saw one incident of excess force, bullying, that cop didn't last long. Later I was a "field training officer", with rookies assigned to me for initial street training. One of those rookies was later killed by a large black male who, in a scuffle, managed to grab his gun - there is never a less than arms length scuffle with a suspect that isn't life or death. Another officer in my squad was paralyzed from the waist down by a parolee who was out with a prior conviction for an execution style murder during a gas station robbery. 

 

Occasionally a thankful, more often a thankless job, the cops I knew were in some respects like the military, adversity engenders a strong sense of support and trust for one another, a brotherhood, us against the bad guys sort of thing. Cops know, but most in society have no idea how truly evil and sadistic bad guys can be. The very worst of it almost never makes the news.

 

"Hands Up - Don't Shoot", what utter BS is that? And our "President" says of the looters and criminals, "I understand the anger arising from Michael Brown's death". How about the demoralization and anger arising from the lack of support for police who are honestly and courageously trying to do their jobs?

 

I left the department after ten years when one of the businesses I founded started doing better than me. I didn't miss knowing my wife worried while I was at work, I did very much miss the camaraderie.

 

bumper

[pinerunner]

I just noticed that 90% of the posters in this thread are of the "Won't leave" category. I predict that by the time its done the rest will have graduated to that category as well.

[alex]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=259_1417729163

How long do you suppose this nice young lady would last on the south side of Chicago, New York, Detroit? ok...ok, forgive me, may I ask why you are committing a crime sir? No? I'm sorry, carry on lad.

[jetdriven]

He could have shot you dead for making him feel "feared for his life" and according to your beliefs, it would be justified.

Eric Garner didn't reach into a concealed area to possibly withdraw a weapon. Plus he was surrounded by several cops. Yet he paid with his life for arguing with cops, he dies, Bill O'reilly is on the tube saying that choke holds are not illegal, just an easy "policy violation" and more blacks kill blacks than cops kill blacks so we don't have a race problem. Right.

[jetdriven]

Screw Eric garner. But would it be ok for the cop to shoot you for reaching into your jacket.

[Andy95W]

Eric Garner didn't reach into a concealed area to possibly withdraw a weapon. Plus he was surrounded by several cops. Yet he paid with his life for arguing with cops, he dies, Bill O'reilly is on the tube saying that choke holds are not illegal, just an easy "policy violation" and more blacks kill blacks than cops kill blacks so we don't have a race problem. Right.

No, Eric Garner did not deserve to die, and probably not Mike Brown either.

My parents taught me to obey a police officer's instructions and call him sir. Is there any doubt that both of those men would still be alive today if they had done that?

Both of their mothers weep on TV because they lost their sons. Tragic, yes, but I wonder if they taught their sons the same things my mother taught me. And if not, why not?

[bonal]

My dad was an Oakland police officer through the 60 and 70's and that was when the anti war riots were pretty bad in Berkeley and Oakland and the Black panthers and hells angels were based there. I would never want to do that job it's a different world today cops getting killed on routine traffic stops. People are getting more unspooled with each generation you have to expect deadly violence if you get upset at someone just taking cuts in line or telling someone to turn off their phone in a theater. Thanks LBJ for such a

"Great Society"

[alex]

I would love to see how your liberal bleeding, MSNBC loving heart would react in a situation such as this. Surprised that you joined the conversation so late

Montague County, TX Cop shot during traffic stop:

[alex]

Or this.....

Cops getting beaten and shot #3: http://youtu.be/kyQtMZoABms

[alex]

The world is not as rosey as you seem to think it is. Is that how you treat authority? Do you just do your own thing on the mighty 747 when the controllers give you instructions? PROBABLY NOT, but thanks for playing!

[flyboy0681]

I would love to see how your liberal bleeding, MSNBC loving heart would react in a situation such as this. Surprised that you joined the conversation so late

Montague County, TX Cop shot during traffic stop:

 

I'm 100% sure Maddow and Co. would find it absolutely deplorable. What do you think they would say, the shooter was well within his rights?

 

Here is the epilogue to this story. It appears to me that the shooter woke up that day and said to himself "time for suicide by cop".

 

 

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Deputy-Shot-in-Bowie-Chase-Ends-in-Violent-Crash-199395081.html

[alex]

Go to the next video and find and excuse to all the different situations. I'm sure you can, you have answers for everything.

[flyboy0681]

Go to the next video and find and excuse to all the different situations. I'm sure you can, you have answers for everything.

 

Wow, I must have a reputation here for siding with the thugs and scumbags of the world and hate cops, although I'm not sure where that conclusion is derived from.

 

A couple of years ago I was called to jury duty and was selected for questioning by the prosecution and defense. The defense attorney asked me whether I believed cops are generally an honest group to which I replied that I thought they had a very tough job, that they are dedicated and that most are hard working, honest servants. I was immediately sent home.

[flyboy0681]

Seriously, you are going to give Obama credit for a recession in Russia.

 

 

As of yesterday, Putin does.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30322198

[alex]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/05/Michael-Brown-Demonstrators-Cheer-As-Police-Officers-Are-Hit-By-Car

We are so F$<%€D when the people we trust to teach our kids, all our "little Timmy's", promote and teach the kind of Shit that our fellow liberal residents spew...hope is thin and helplessness is abound.

[flyboy0681]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/05/Michael-Brown-Demonstrators-Cheer-As-Police-Officers-Are-Hit-By-Car

We are so F$<%€D when the people we trust to teach our kids, all our "little Timmy's", promote and teach the kind of Shit that our fellow liberal residents spew...hope is thin and helplessness is abound.

 

There are conflicting reports of what actually took place. One thing that I learned, and wasn't mentioned at all in the Breitbart article, is that it was a runaway car driven by an incapacitated driver not involved in the protest. The Breitbart article said that it was students cheering but witnesses said it were older men. So what are we to believe? The Fox News feature below said that students at the scene were horrified. A followup report that I viewed showed students visiting the hospital the next day to lend their support to the officer.

 

Thus far the national protests have been very peaceful in my opinion and I'd like to believe that there's no truth to this story although it probably is.

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/05/denver-police-union-says-students-acted-disrespectfully/

[alex]

It's Faux News, of course it's not true...but thanks for your valued input. I shall go back to my desk and find an article that will hopefully leave your automatic refute trigger inoperable. Your skill is absolutely uncanny, I think you may have chosen the wrong vocation flyboy4 44, you should have been press secretary...

[flyboy0681]

It's Faux News, of course it's not true...but thanks for your valued input. I shall go back to my desk and find an article that will hopefully leave your automatic refute trigger inoperable. Your skill is absolutely uncanny, I think you may have chosen the wrong vocation flyboy4 44, you should have been press secretary...

 

Gees Louise, I'm not trying to spin anything, and what am I refuting may I ask? I'm simply trying to get across that the situation was not as cut and dry as Breitbart reported it to be. 

 

And I'm confused about your Faux News comment. My reply was based upon its content but you are saying that my response was incorrect - which means that Fox was incorrect?

[carusoam]

"Wow, I must have a reputation here for siding with the thugs and scumbags of the world and hate cops..." -

Three things that are good to keep in mind...

(1) The effects of Internet forum threads that go longer than people's short term memory....Timmy should start a new thread every now and then?

(2) Internet threads are easy to misunderstand... We're you understood correctly...?

(3) Internet threads that are easily mis-typed... Did you type your thoughts for your audience to understand...?

I'm pretty sure this thread is difficult to understand.

It is a challenge to understand who stands for what.

Some parts, phrases or words are often considered taboo for public conversation in open places.

Is it two or three people, in complete disagreement, typing out an endless conversation that has nothing to do with central theme of this community?

I need the practice reading and writing, so consider me on board with you guys. I just don't understand it...

I'll keep working on it...,

-a-

[flyboy0681]

"Wow, I must have a reputation here for siding with the thugs and scumbags of the world and hate cops..." -

Three things that are good to keep in mind...

(1) The effects of Internet forum threads that go longer than people's short term memory....Timmy should start a new thread every now and then?

(2) Internet threads are easy to misunderstand... We're you understood correctly...?

(3) Internet threads that are easily mis-typed... Did you type your thoughts for your audience to understand...?

I'm pretty sure this thread is difficult to understand.

It is a challenge to understand who stands for what.

Some parts, phrases or words are often considered taboo for public conversation in open places.

Is it two or three people, in complete disagreement, typing out an endless conversation that has nothing to do with central theme of this community?

I need the practice reading and writing, so consider me on board with you guys. I just don't understand it...

I'll keep working on it...,

-a-

 

And although it hasn't happened here, probably due to mutual respect, Godwin's Law had not reared its ugly head.

[carusoam]

This one...?

Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7]

[carusoam]

There is something left out of such comparisons...

The audience you have, may be more deeply effected by the topic than you can imagine...

It is a very sensitive topic for some and completely uncared for by others.

It is one thing to read about atrocity in a history book. But it hits home more when you meet a man that has a small unexplained number on his arm, a nazi given serial number...

The common thing in this thread is the tragedy of losing a life. No matter who they are, they will be missed.

Atrocities still occur in the modern world, you have covered many, but probably not all.

Did you guys cover slavery in the modern world? Women and children enslaved in the sex trade.

Now, if there is a way we could help solve these greater needs, this thread would be celebrated!

Maybe that is the purpose of this thread. Scott has been right all along, but he has been misunderstood?

Maybe he was unable to organize such powerful thoughts..?

[flyboy0681]

This one...?

Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's Law originally referred, specifically, to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles and other rhetoric.[5][6]

In 2012, "Godwin's Law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7]

 

Is there another?