rainman Posted April 9, 2014 Report Posted April 9, 2014 I flew to Lockhart TX (50R) to get some BBQ at Black's today. While at the FBO (512-376-9608) I saw an F model in the corner of the large hangar. The lady who works at the FBO told me the plane was flown in seven years ago and parked in the hangar and never moved. The owner pays his hangar rent but never comes to look at the plane. Project? Parts? It was sad to see it so ignored.
Marauder Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 I flew to Lockhart TX (50R) to get some BBQ at Black's today. While at the FBO (512-376-9608) I saw an F model in the corner of the large hangar. The lady who works at the FBO told me the plane was flown in seven years ago and parked in the hangar and never moved. The owner pays his hangar rent but never comes to look at the plane. Project? Parts? It was sad to see it so ignored. Do you know what year? Sent using Tapatalk
rainman Posted April 10, 2014 Author Report Posted April 10, 2014 Sorry, I didn't get the N# or year. Perhaps the FBO can give you that info? The phone number above is the FBO.
Marauder Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 Sorry, I didn't get the N# or year. Perhaps the FBO can give you that info? The phone number above is the FBO. Thanks. I got a friend looking for an F. Wonder if the owner would consider selling. Sent using Tapatalk
AmigOne Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 Thanks. I got a friend looking for an F. Wonder if the owner would consider selling. If the owner flew it in 7 years ago and left it there to decay, I doubt it. I do not know what is with these "owners" that let their airplanes to rot. Excluding larger controlled fields, just about every airport has a few of these airplanes. At my own there are at least 5 parked in a far away corner that haven't moved in years, including a couple of Mooneys. Some people have tried to reach them and only got angry responses. I posted yesterday these two pictures yesterday of these two at a small fly-in community near Greensboro, NC but they are worth repeating here. I was told that their engines had only a few hours each.
Matt Michael Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 Gear-upped ready to ferry F on the ramp at Paola Miami county just south of Kansas City. Great project, cheap. Killer BBQ on the field too!
urbanti Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 FWIW, I have looked into the back story on local abandoned airplanes and have heard the following scenarios: - once well-heeled owner fallen on hard times but continues to believe that next year will be financially able to fly again (meanwhile a/c is becoming so deteriorated that it may be uneconomic to make airworthy); - owner has lost medical but continues to fantasize about getting it back and is unwilling to let a/c go; - owner has passed away and a/c is snarled in some sort of multi-year estate snafu; - owner is incapable of maintaining/flying a/c but has unreasonably high valuation of a/c and drives off prospective buyers; and - owner is entangled in non-amicable divorce and lacks bandwidth/money/clear title to plane. 1
chrisk Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 If the owner flew it in 7 years ago and left it there to decay, I doubt it. I do not know what is with these "owners" that let their airplanes to rot. Excluding larger controlled fields, just about every airport has a few of these airplanes. At my own there are at least 5 parked in a far away corner that haven't moved in years, including a couple of Mooneys. Some people have tried to reach them and only got angry responses. I posted yesterday these two pictures yesterday of these two at a small fly-in community near Greensboro, NC but they are worth repeating here. I was told that their engines had only a few hours each. It is so sad to see airplanes like this sitting
orionflt Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 Doesn't it make you wish there was a way to scoop these planes up and get them back in the air with new owners that could keep them in the air. If people were more reasonable we might even be able to get those who love their planes back in the air by setting up a partnership or club. Brian 4
Marauder Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 Doesn't it make you wish there was a way to scoop these planes up and get them back in the air with new owners that could keep them in the air. If people were more reasonable we might even be able to get those who love their planes back in the air by setting up a partnership or club. Brian I think the partnership or club idea is great. Challenge is always the cost getting the plane back into shape after acquiring it. Now if we had a handy mechanic who could be in the partnership to monitor and sign off on our grunt work
orionflt Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 If I thought I could make a living doing that I would be the first in line. Brian
DaV8or Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 FWIW, I have looked into the back story on local abandoned airplanes and have heard the following scenarios: - once well-heeled owner fallen on hard times but continues to believe that next year will be financially able to fly again (meanwhile a/c is becoming so deteriorated that it may be uneconomic to make airworthy); - owner has lost medical but continues to fantasize about getting it back and is unwilling to let a/c go; I'm not sure which of the above is true in this case, but one of them is. I met the owner of the Mooney below as it is parked next to my hangar. He is delusional about the aircraft's airworthiness, or at least by what he told me. There are also those that just like in the car business, have no intentions of ever using the vehicle again, but keep holding on to it because they are convinced it will be a collector's item one day and worth lots of money for their heirs.
orionflt Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 HMMM... aircraft collectors value as an antique - tie down fees X 20yr + restoration cost due to deterioration from sitting outside......doesn't seem to add up to me but i'm lousy when it comes to using the new math they are teaching now. Brian
Yetti Posted April 11, 2014 Report Posted April 11, 2014 5064T 22-1432 ERWA ELFATIH M 9208 ROLLING HILLS TRL LAGO VISTA, TX 78645-2104 MOONEY 1976 M20F 08/23/2012 Up to 12,499 Individual google search the name... fair amount of drama associated with it
Marauder Posted April 11, 2014 Report Posted April 11, 2014 Drama? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The only drama I could find is that the airworthiness date is 06/15/1984. How can a 1976 F model have that date?
orionflt Posted April 11, 2014 Report Posted April 11, 2014 Aircraft could have been exported to another country, then brought back and re registered in the US. aircraft could have been damaged to the point where the FAA revoked the Cert then reissued it when returned to an airworthy condition. aircraft could have been modified (moved to the experimental category) to test equipment or configurations that were not covered by the original type cert. i'm sure there are a few scenarios i may have missed but these are the most common. Brian
scottfromiowa Posted April 12, 2014 Report Posted April 12, 2014 MMMLLLHHHhhhh. Could care less what others do with their property. Doesn't make me sad when I drive by a house that is run down. I am not sorry about it or even curious...Who cares, I have all the "stuff" I can handle. If they want to hang on to it...have at it. I have an Octogenaraian neighbor with a Luger he acquired while supporting 101st in WWII. Has not seen light of day for decades...THAT would be the one exception to my rule. I enjoy seeing Mooney's whatever the condition, whereever they are located.
Wildhorsesracing Posted April 28, 2014 Report Posted April 28, 2014 That's how I found mine, it was sitting in the back of a hangar for years. Waiting for some idiot (me) to pursue ownership. I contacted them and they wanted too much $$$ so I passed on it - finally the estate realized that the hangar rental was going to eat all of the value away and sold it to me. Sometimes it pays off to ask around...
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