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Just guessing here but I would suspect the average wage at the factory is abut $30/hour so $60/hour aggregate would just about cover all taxes and benefits. $240k in labor $100k avionics $80k engine $50k misc $470k total +/- overhead profit and liability $235k $705k +/- not too far from the list price of a new Ultra I have said before all small aircraft manufacturers need to get together and automate many of the processes to reduce man hours. Many of the cutting, bending, riveting and welding jobs could be automated today. However, to be cost effective B,C, C, P and Mooney need to work together. Can they see past competition long enough to do it? Don't get me wrong I like competition and market driving innovation that is why we have the Ultra with 2 doors but I think for all of them to succeed they need to cooperate at some level. JMHO

because the aircraft one comes with a pretty sign to tell you to remove it before starting the engine.

oh boy I'm getting my popcorn this should be as good as LOPvs ROP I like the short bodies for a really good 4 seat 2 place airplane and the mid bodies for a real good plane overall. The long ones seem to long but they are all good. I just wish Mooney was selling enough Ultras to produce a 2 door mid body (an Ultra J with your option of a 200HP or 300HP out front) but we all know that will not happen.

I've had an E and F no real difference in my opinion.

not a beer snob I just like beer with more flavor than the typical American lights.

yes i agree bud light, miller light etc. don't really classify as beer you at least need to get some of the micro breweries

Are you talking about the power boost air seal or the large round disc that will open if the air filter is clogged? If it is boost air seal I have used a piece of engine baffling drill the rivets holding it together and replace the rubber seal part. It takes an hour or two but not very difficult.

Too bad you can't hand an IO540 on the front of the F model. That would be the way to go. Does Lycoming still offer the IO390? That would get you some extra pony's under the cowling. Glad to hear you are considering this project plane. Once you get started please keep us up to date with photos.

I'll leave it at 5 or 6 for short flights. Long flights 3 hours + I'll put it at 7.

Good PPI looking for air frame corrosion and go. Fly it VFR get your IR ticket in it. Hand flying and using VORs is a go god way to get your IR ticket. Afterwards light IMC flying going up or down though a layer to get where you are going this would be a good platform. Decision time comes a few years form now: find a model that has GPS and AP or upgrade this one some lower cost options might be available at that time.

Fiberglass boats float.

http://migration.cirruspilots.org/ Check this out for the Cirrus Migration I was halfway thinking about going for a day just to see what they do but I don't think so. @mike_elliott Mike you and the others do a wonderful job keeping the Mooney Summit working on Donations. Thanks very much. I do have to admit I prefer the beach venue over an inland venue. However, if we ever wanted to come to New Orleans for the summit I would be willing to assist.

The maintenance manual should have a brief explanation of sealing the windshield during replacement this should work. A little more information will help. Model and year of your plane? Photo of the suspected area? is it rain water on the ground and or the air? do you have the stock 2 piece windshield do you have the 201 windshield? do you have a 1 piece stock windshield? You could be getting water from the avionics access panels?

I'm not sure which is in mine but i do know the plane power regulators are adjustable.

Changing your battery will not do anything. You can check your alternator belt to make sure it is tight enough a slipping belt could cause lower volts and wear you belt out faster. You can adjust the voltage regulator to get it closer to 14.0V. I typically see 13.7 to 14.1 volts on mine generally after running for 15 to 20 minutes it will settle down at 13.9 to 14V.

This past Tuesday I was flying a friend who is interested in learning to fly and I was conducting an unofficial first flying lesson. We were maneuvering in a pretty isolated space at the edge of the Bravo when I spotted incoming traffic on my IFLY 740 with ADSB in. He was about 4 miles with no altitude reported 143kts pretty much coming in from my 0900. I continued at my altitude and heading to keep him approaching me at 90 degrees and increased throttle to ensure he would pass behind me. I was at about 2500 and he was cruising along about 1500 and passed about a mile behind me. We will never know if he saw me or not. Without ADSB it probably would have not been an issue but ADSB allowed me to know he was there and look for him. I was not talking to ATC at the time and maybe if they were not too busy they could have called him out as well. I don't like the way ADSB out tattles on you but I do like the traffic and weather in. Keep your eyes peeled out there and use all the tools you have at your disposal.

Sounds lie we need to convince some aerodynamic engineer working on his doctorate degree to take this on as his thesis and once and for all using computer simulations, wind tunnels and math to prove which is more efficient. However, we all know the real answer already and that is the Mooney design is more efficient and better.

Cute exhibition. Although it would be a little more difficult on our planes hanging under the wing. Besides those old planes had all those wires to hang on to while you are out there walking on the wings. Oh she didn't have a parachute either. @M20Doc Do you offer in flight maintenance services? Might be a new business opportunity.

Year ago I thought I saw where somebody had this for a plane even came as a set of 3 but I couldn't tell you when or where I saw it.

arghhh you'll walk the plank and be keel hauled for that.

No they stripped everything and repainted the whole plane

Yeah I bet he passes through 90IAS pretty quick so moving the Johnson bar in the F22 has to be a beast if you don't get the gear up quick. Nah they will promote him to full colonel that way he won't be flying and wont hurt any more planes. Sad to see and unfortunately it can happen to any of us.

OK I'm reviving this thread. just out of curiosity I just watched a highly sped up time lapse sequence of an Emirates passenger jet 737 or similar get repainted. They stripped the plane cleaned it and repainted it. I never saw the control surfaces removed for balancing?? Is this a Mooney thing? (FAA regs I believe call for this) Do they do it another way on the plane that was not show? Is the ratio of the mass of the control surface to the mass of the paint so much greater on a 737 that it is negligible and does not need to be considered? Did I just miss the step due to the time lapse or camera angles? Emirates doesn't need to comply with FAA regs (they fly outside US airspace) and it is not required over there?

Sounds like a good deal if it is close and depending on how much the others fly it for weekend trips. $7.5k buy in and $135 a month is cheaper than going it alone. Just be ready to contribute up to another $7.5k for the engine overhaul. If you can walk away from the $7.5k without any serious hardship I'd go for it. Finally I'd push for them to upgrade to the Avidyne IFD440 and get rid of the Garmin you will all like it better especially using an Ipad and the IFD100 software and divided 4 ways it is not a huge hit for each owner. Also don't forget you get to sell the Garmin 430 after as well.

Fly higher and faster. Yes this does pose a problem I think some have opted for sheep skin covers or other things like it. I just deal with it and fly 10 or 11 thousand for a cool flight.