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Everything posted by 1964-M20E
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hopefully the shop has good insurance
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Sell both and put and IFD-550 and get a backup AI. Wiring changes would be minimal from the garmin 430 to the Avidyne.
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This is unfortunate but knowing it was coming looks like the prop was horizontal and engine shut down eliminating a prop strike. Repairs are simpler and cheaper this way.
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Another remanufacturing example - Diamond Aircraft
1964-M20E replied to Rick Junkin's topic in General Mooney Talk
well?? Let's as we do this with any M20 air frame and keep in mind you are keeping your factory people busy and making money in between building new planes. C,E,F,G $30k+/- IO360TN new $60k New paint $15k New interior $10k Clean and rework landing gear (if manual leave as manual) upgrade actuators in electric models $5k New GPS Avidyne or G at option of buyer $20k Standard overhauled steam gauges ( maybe AV-30s for AI and DG) $10k New cowling $8k Extended motor mount to make current production cowling work $3k misc $10k So you are about $180k invested and this covers labor for the work. List the planes for $285k this gives you $100k+ profit. Now you have a good clean aircraft that is faster than when it was produced. J, K $60k+/-) IO360TN new $60k or 305HP rocket conversion for $90k (maybe they can even offer the 305hp for some F and G models?? New paint $15k New interior $10k Clean and rework landing gear (if manual leave as manual) upgrade actuators in electric models $5k New GPS Avidyne or G at option of buyer $20k Standard overhauled steam gauges ( maybe AV-30s for AI and DG) $10k New cowling $8k Extended motor mount to make current production cowling work $3k misc $10k So you are about $200k to $220k invested and this covers labor for the work. List the planes for $340k this gives you $100k+ profit. Now you have a good clean aircraft that is faster than when it was produced. Maybe throw in an extra 100 to 200lbs of useful load during this process as well. -
inverted as well you have to love our service boys. Thank you for your service.
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New pilot looking at a '75 M20F
1964-M20E replied to PhateX1337's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
Field overhauls are not necessarily a bad thing either. Do they have a good list of all internal part numbers and SNs if applicable? If the avionics are what you are looking for, and it is a nice suite, you will never be able tout all of that in a plane for less than buying a plane without the avionics and installing them yourself. Get a good pre buy to check for corrosion and any other possible airworthy issues. -
New pilot looking at a '75 M20F
1964-M20E replied to PhateX1337's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
Nice plane 84k probably close to where it should be given the avionics 22SMOH on engine?? Infant mortality a possibility?? Was it a factory overhaul or a field overhaul? Welcome to Mooney space -
Well any time I have logged since getting my PPL has been logged as PIC. Time with an instructor is still logged as PIC after my PPL except when getting rotorcraft rating. Any flight time besides dual with CFI is (PIC) solo I cannot realistically say if I had anyone else on board or not. JMHO
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well not a Mooney but my hangar was in an episode foe NCIS New Orleans. My Mooney was inside the hangar so I guess my Mooney was in the show. I guess my hangar didn't look nasty enough the painted rust on it to make it look worse. Anyone wanting autographs I plan on being available at the next Mooney Summit.
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Well not a great flight but a good end
1964-M20E replied to Oscar Avalle's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
You must have been naughty this year. Somebody give you a box of gremlins for Christmas? Sounds electrical for sure. Maybe a rodent got in and was nibbling on wires? Oooo don't want to think about this one. Was the alternator charging? Low voltage maybe the culprit here. -
Not sure whether to laugh or be insulted...
1964-M20E replied to TargetDriver's topic in Miscellaneous Aviation Talk
" if your pitot tube is short and your manifold pressure low taxi a little closer to the toilet so you don't pee on the floor" -
you can always try calling he big avionics shops like Gulf coast they may have one. They usually have a pretty good selection of radios at SnF
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Aviation related holiday decorations?
1964-M20E replied to Joe Larussa's topic in Modern Mooney Discussion
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Mountain flying is easy just fly higher than the big rocks and remember they hide those rocks in the clouds sometimes.
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Sorry to hear bout this. Here are some options with wild ass guess pricing. Fixing the crack would be the cheapest option. Remove and replace engine, disassembly, gasket set maybe rings IRAN the rest catalog every part inside the engine and run it for another 2000 hours. WAG $6amu Find another serviceable case IRAN existing engine internals and accessories to the new case. WAG $10AMU Find serviceable low time engine removed form flying aircraft. WAG $15AMU Find a new case use existing engine components. WAG $15AMU Factory overhaul with exchange WAG $30AMU factory may not accept core due to crack? Factory new engine WAG $50AMU factory may not accept core due to crack? JMHO But regardless of your decision fix it and fly it.
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One interesting thing about the photo we have all these Mooneys on a grass ramp probably landing and taking off on a grass runway. The Horror!!
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Stop drilling would stop the progression of the crack. It appears to be on the upper and lower skin. Maybe hangar rash? Looks like paint missing just forward of the trailing edge. Is this related to the crack? Maybe you could add a doubler above and below the crack after stop drilling. The purists here will want a new elevator from Mooney. Not sure of costs but I’d anticipate $5amu or more. You could get a used replacement @Alan Fox might have one I'm not an A&P or IA I think with stop drilling would probably be airworthy. A doubler would be a little better I believe.
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Well I rarely see below 40F when I go out to fly but After start set to 1000 to 1200 RPM while I'm doing run up checklist, programming flight plans, setting instruments etc. Depending on where I am I'll begin my run up or taxi to the runup area as needed by the time run up is complete generally CHTs are above 250 oil temps are coming up and I'm ready to fly.
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When sitting on the ground the ailerons droop some putting the tubes in very light compression. As you begin to move forward the air pressure under the wing forces the aileron up putting both tubes are in tension. When making a turn one tube will be in compression and one in tension. If I recall correctly the working of these tubes and the aerodynamics of the situation. The tube in tension (deflecting the aileron down) would see more force than the one in compression (deflecting the aileron up). This is due to the higher pressure under the wing than above the wing. OK anyone wish to shoot holes in my analysis you are welcome to.
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Interesting analysis. I didn't think about this last time I went inverted in the Mooney and was hanging from the seatbelt. Seriously I wonder how the aileron tubes would hold up during inverted flight they are long tubes and would be in compression? I guess you could always increase the diameter and wall thickness of the tubes. I think they are currently designed to be about 1/2" or 5/8" diameter. Increase to 3/4" and adjust the phenolic blocks accordingly.
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looks like coax antenna wire??
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Landing Light Circuit Overheats?
1964-M20E replied to Lukon's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
The other good thing is the landing light circuit is in the realm of preventive maintenance. -
Engine Oil AeroShell vs Phillips66
1964-M20E replied to Lukon's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
I don't know. At lest when you are mushroom the keep you in the dark and they feed you. I'm still waiting to be fed. -
Engine Oil AeroShell vs Phillips66
1964-M20E replied to Lukon's topic in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)
I run either the Phillips 100AW or the 20W-50 victory. Of course being a Phillips 66 employee I have to support the home team. However, I have been running Philips since I bought my first plane in 2010 and prior to me becoming a P66 employee. So no one asks we do not make the 100AW or 20W-50 here. We don't even make avgas but we do make jet fuel. -
At first I thought someone got abducted while flying their Mooney.