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Marty, I like the way you think... Is your wife a project engineer? Perfect for getting that hangar home built while you are busy 24/7 on those other details... We have a few hangar homes around here... Best regards, -a-

Underwriters Labs is a typical resource for burn tests... They have standards for materials like this... They cut strips to dimension... Put in a holder light one end... Observe what happens next... Before paying for official data... cut a strip, put in the fire place... light one end... observe... If It flames up, melts, and drips flaming drops... that would be bad... There is plenty of this written up in threads around here Probably UL-94 flame test... might get you started... PP thoughts only, not a materials scientist... or a Material girl either... (See if Ross hears me) Go Madonna! Best regards, -a-

More news for Jim... Drugs go through a few phases of development... Phases 1, 2, 3, 4... What happened quickly was the the whole preclinical development of the drug... that has been possible because technology has advanced so tremendously, every year... remember when phones were attached to the wall, weighed a tone, and had a corded hand piece? Then a few years ago... somebody finally defined the human genome... and took a year to copy it... Today, you can spit in a cup, send it to 23 and me, and they can tell you way too much about yourself based on your personal genome... done so quickly, you will be annoyed about how long it takes to ship there... Remember the other Corona viruses.... this wasn’t the first... it was novel... but much was already known about identifying it and disabling it... and how to make the new chemistry to disable the new virus... Phase two: is where human trials begin... various dosing regimens get tested... lots of good numbers came from these tests immediately... this is when stock markets began their recoveries... Phase 3: when things work well enough, phase three starts... that includes different gene pools, age groups... phases can overlap each other... but rushing leads to missed opportunities... Commercialization is tested in phase 3... all the details required to produce with tremendous control... including training all of the people involved... storage condition ranges get opened up in this phase... when able... Phase 4: post commercialization... testing different delivery mechanisms of the same active ingredient... it would be great if this was put in a liquigel and taken orally... or every age group under the sun... The process is incredibly well developed already... the pharma companies are in place already... the only thing new was the structure of the virus... it was similar to prior Covid viruses... It appears to have happened quickly... much quicker in appearance... When it comes to government... and trust, or don’t trust... The FDA independently approves the whole show... as the EMEA does for Europe. Very similar to the FAA working with Boeing... same documents, same procedures, same writers, same approvals... All Ts and Is crossed and dotted... All decided in advance... what needs to get done... lots of 24hour days in a row... month after month... Now... for the ‘sh*t show’... this is where the newspapers come in.... They know drug development as well as they know flying airplanes and why they fall out of the sky every week on a news production schedule... Who knows drug distribution better than the drug companies already? I’m sure there are many military guys here that have tremendous skills of all levels regarding getting drugs into the field where patients are... How about the hospitals, pharmacies, refrigerator builders, and instrumentation guys... How about those football stadium owners organizing traffic flow through the parking lot... Essentially everyone is needed... Everyone does their jobs... and the one next to them.. USAToday will stop printing stories about the pandemic as soon as you lose interest... Commercialization of a new drug takes a ton of work... Like flying a new plane, on a new route, with a new crew... not a single KEY step gets skipped... there are back-ups to the back-ups... You should see how many signatures on every step of the way get executed... completely traceable from start to finish... today, signatures are electronic, easily executed on a portable device... all the petty home-work that used to take forever...where a dozen people would be in the same room reading and signing... can now be done from anywhere... including anyplace you need to be to get it done... while babysitting something else... Lots of hurry up and wait time is going away... I guess if I were a Boeing 737 pilot... I would have complete distrust for these systems too... Leadership starts from the top, and works its way down through the ranks... In this case... I’d go with Pfizer... The Moderna guys forgot that selling stock out of their personal accounts during the development phase would have tremendous bad image associated with that... it was an ordinary pre-planned retirement account event... but looked very much like they didn’t believe in their own product... (love the newspaper story guys...) PP thoughts only, fully retired... not selling anything... still wondering why two 737s had to fall out of the sky... Best regards, -a-

I’ve seen it... his name is Tom... the machine is called a Lancair IVPT... The things I like most about it... very well defined Airframe, turbine powered... I like the turbine for the low failure rates... + speed, then pressurization... But other than that... My O fits me just fine... Pressurized, turbine, Mooney.... flown for 15years, then sold to me... I can wait... Best regards, -a-

Lie, don’t lie... People often don’t know they are infected... while spreading for days... wait, don’t wait... Of the available vaccines... they all have very high affectiveness... small side affect percentages... Doesn’t get much better than that... Do you prefer coke or Pepsi? Priority, no priority... Not getting sick would be my priority... Not accidentally spreading the virus to people I know, or don’t know... would be my next priority... A typical priority for me... doing the best I can... Is it best to wait, or go now... I decided go now... signed up...now I wait... That’s the best I can do... Do the best you can do... PP thoughts only, not a vaccine expert... Best regards, -a-

For the most part, you don’t want to be in a Burning car either... -a-

Find the key serial number in the M20J history... Everything after that serial number is available for the higher MGTW... One of the change enacted in that serial number was a few heavier tubes in the frame... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a-

We can always use more of both! Best regards, -a-

Two seat tandem... https://blackshapeaircraft.com/en/gabriel/ Not very helpful for my four seat requirement... -a-

Finance ATP A&P Sounds like a key person in an aviation business... Keep moving forwards Seth! Best regards, -a-

So... In this thread there is plenty of experience... 1) ATC 2) CFII, with a specialty in FARs... 3) IR pilots... 4) And me... 5) Not enough info to go on...? 6) Something got mis-understood, mis-heard, mis-interpreted... by somebody... Get the tapes info if possible... the PIC will want to know what happened... as much as we would like to know... Best regards, -a-

I’m looking forward to their Bravo model... Remind me when that one is available... Best regards, -a-

Welcome aboard Mike... Post as much Mite info as you can... Invite as many Mite owners as you want... It would be great to have a larger portion of the Mite community here... Best regards, -a-

The nearly million dollar feeling you get when sitting in a new Mooney! yay! Thanks for sharing the pics... -a-

Yous guys don’t know the real Modena... (sense the Philly accent, I don’t have...) Sure Italy is nice and so are Ferraris... Modena is the the VOR outside of Philly.... Known to be the long way home for a few MSers like Marauder.... All V-roads lead to Modena in that neighborhood... Best regards, -a-

If you have time to read... https://nanopdf.com/download/awos-operators-manual_pdf I searched for pilots guide... and got their owners manual instead... because it uses the words pilot and guide several times... -a-

later update... http://www.digiwx-39n.com/mobile/ They give a phone number with the data page and a frequency... Nothing answered the phone... I typically use the class D field nearby at KTTN... they probably have the same hardware... and a requirement to use it... and let it be used... -a-

They don’t even put up large signs at the FBO that has it... Going on line this evening.... http://www.digiwx-39n.com/LostConnection.htm notice the similarities... digiwx-airport code... My home drome seems to be disconnected tonight... When searching on line... there isn’t a lot of user information readily available... user being the end user/pilot... You get bounced to their next site... https://www.sayweather.com Where they hide the detail.... in their own frustrating words... The use of automated UNICOM systems is also noted in the FAA Aeronautical Information Manual 4-1-9.a.3: Many airports are now providing completely automated weather, radio check capability and airport advisory information on an automated UNICOM system. These systems offer a variety of features, typically selectable by microphone clicks, on the UNICOM frequency. Availability of the automated UNICOM will be published in the Airport/Facility Directory and approach charts. If you want to see a map of where they are installed... their website sends you to Google maps with incorrect data filled in... It looks like they have some nice weather equipment installed locally... for local use... We could see if @Pete M has any insight... I think Pete has CFI experience at 39N, and may be familiar with their digiwx device... Best regards, -a-

Nice work, Eric and Skip! You guys are beyond good! Thanks for sharing the details... Best regards, -a-

TH, Where did you get using Maneuvering speed guidance from? I get the feeling, that using performance numbers in general... then applying to Mooneys specifically, may not work so well... Similar to having a non Mooney mechanic do a PPI... Or not using a Mooney CFI for transition training... There are enough differences between Mooney and all other planes....Most of us found the Mooney because of what it does... It does things differently than the other planes... If you like... Speed Efficiency instrument platform commercial maneuvers Go Mooney! Get the best details from Mooney specific... Community mechanics CFIIs Good luck with your next steps... Let us know how it goes... Best regards, -a-

I was singing your praises Ross! Like a virgin, hey! -a-

Jim, Most all MSers are not sheep following the crowd... I’m not sure if trusting the government is the issue... but follow this logic if you will... It is More like the pharma companies not steering me wrong... Trust but verify... We have a few choices... 1) Get the virus... end result if you live, there can be long term side affects of having the virus... which isn’t really well known yet either... there have been some lasting side affects... If you pass the virus to somebody else... is it their fault? ( get the vaccine, this becomes a non-issue ) 2) Get the vaccine... You will most likely live, and have the long term side affects of the vaccine... know of any yet? 3) live away from human beings... the long term affects of low social interaction can really suck... some religious sects do this... watch what happens when they spread the virus amongst themselves... 4) Multiply this times every vaccine available to people... like the MMR... should we be concerned there too? Sure... 5) For a good conspiracy conversation select your favorite airplane, and the governmental body that approved its AW document... 6) Let me know if you avoid flying a Boeing or an Airbus for any insider reason... your opinion really matters here... 7) If you think the FDA is different than the FAA... read their rules... they are both open to the public for reading... 8) when you have children, you have been through the same fears, several times... 9) You wince more, because their your children...you are making a decision, they have to live with... 10) You will hear more conspiracy theories from wacky neighborhood mommies and daddies who don’t have the cog strength to get past what sounds right to them... 11) Find experts on the subject ask them questions... be respectful when you do... you will get more complete answers that way... 12) MS has many pros working hands on in the dilemma... and sharing their logic... 13) How do you feel about your employer telling you need to have the vaccine to come to work? 14) If you can’t trust any finance guy, bank, or hedge fund, because Bernie Madoff was an evil genius... and Enron crushed its employees... and Henry Ford used up his employees... 15) If life is all about conspiracy theories... We run out of time to live... 16) I’m still alive because some stranger dialed the phone for me... Science finished the job... life is pretty fragile... 17) Pick your best direction, and go with it... 18) don’t put all of your eggs in one basket... 19) Worry about the things that are in your control... 20) Always wear sunscreen... PP thoughts about things we can’t control, and what mom always said... and believing in humanity... humans are mostly good... because they want to be... Best regards, -a-

Electrical devices increase in price with... 24V vs 12V Dual VR, to handle two alternators... Small additional costs for a pair of batteries, switches, relays, trickle charging capability... The expertise needed to OH them is limited... PP thoughts only, not a parts expert... Best regards, -a-

Hmmmmm.... The 262 is a 12V version of the 252... all other things being equal... -a-

Light fuel weight, M20C, no hills... I didn’t get anything powered until the Mooney had to go up hill into the hangar... Unless it is empty... the O weighs enough to make it difficult for one person to press it up hill... If anyone gives you a hard time about manually moving your M20C... tell them you are saving for some kid’s college or an M20R... Best regards, -a-