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530w and 696 with cross patch

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After a lot of feedback from this site I wanted to share the installed 530w / 696 with cross patch which allows the 530w to push flight plans, etc to the 696.

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I was going the 430w direction as well to minimize space requirements but allowed my friend and a good deal on the 530w to change my mind. What are friends for, right?

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Whatever is loaded into the 530 is fed to the 696 and displayed on both units, I think it would be safe to say the 696 behaves similar to an MFD. The only thing I am aware of that was required to connect the two was a special cable...I think the cost was less than $50 for the cable. Since I had the 530 and 696 installed at the same time as well as some other squaks, I couldn't honestly tell you what the costs were specifically to the cross patch. I can't imagine more than a couple hours of shop time and cable to connect the two if that were all that was being done. Hope that helps

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The connection is a single wire serial port. RS232 out on the panel mount and RS232 in on the portable. No other hardware is needed. Both units then need the proper configuration for the serial ports. If done during initial install the cost should be minimal.

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Yeah, it is a relatively cheap cable from Garmin that has a 696 connector on one end, and bare wires on the other.  I did the same thing with my 496.  One wire connects to a 430/530, and two more for power (thru a circuit breaker!) and ground and that's it IIRC.  Pretty simple installation except for rooting around behind the panel.  In my case the 430 was already installed so I had to disconnect one of the multi-pin connectors and figure out which hole to insert the new pin and wire, which was difficult due to access limitations and little slack in the harness.  It is a very, very good thing to do, and turns a Garmin portable into an MFD.

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.....It is a very, very good thing to do, and turns a Garmin portable into an MFD.

 

Same simple installation and wonderful display on my Aera 510 connected to my G530W.

PTK Grand Master

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One question re this. If you activate an approach on the main unit does (or can) the approach plate display on the handheld?

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One question re this. If you activate an approach on the main unit does (or can) the approach plate display on the handheld?

 

My 796 has plates, but I haven't seen a setting to automatically select the plate rather than the moving map when the approach is activated.  The points on the approach path flow down the the handheld as points on the flight plan.  I know I can select a georeferenced plate, but I don't know if the handheld can tell that my GNS480 has activated an approach.  I genenerally use my ipad for plates so I haven't looked for it, but it's a nice idea.

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My 796 has plates, but I haven't seen a setting to automatically select the plate rather than the moving map when the approach is activated. The points on the approach path flow down the the handheld as points on the flight plan. I know I can select a georeferenced plate, but I don't know if the handheld can tell that my GNS480 has activated an approach. I genenerally use my ipad for plates so I haven't looked for it, but it's a nice idea.

It would be very nice for folks who have the 4/530's along with the large 796. But in retrospect, it's probably a safety issue similar to why we can't shoot an approach using a handheld.

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Don, I bought the cable directly from Garmin.  https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1083

 

I figured out the correct pin on the 430W installation manual or owners manual... I can't remember which but likely the installation manual.  I think I have an electronic copy at home, or else I googled it at the time and printed out the pertinent content.  It was just one pin IIRC that went to the 430W, and then I had to configure the 430W in the setup screens to enable "Aviation Out" as the format on Port Number XX, and similarly configure "Aviation In" on the 496.  Note that you can only have one input going to the 496, so it can be flight plan data like I did, or else you could send traffic data from a -330 transpoder or Xaon device for example, but not both.  I purchased the correct pin from Digikey too.  I think the specs were in the Garmin manual so I could match it.  Ring terminals on the power/ground cables allowed connection to an unused circuit breaker and ground.  All in all it wasn't terribly difficult, except for the contortionist routine required to work behind a Mooney panel.  I did it in less than an hour and my IA signed it off during an annual.

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