Rick Junkin Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 Garmin Pilot takes many hours to download new nav and map data each cycle. It’s the same on all of my devices. What ForeFlight does in minutes takes up to 5 hours on Garmin Pilot. I have fiber internet at home and have also tried it with Starlink but get the same result. Has anyone else experienced this? I do have all of the US selected for download, the same as I do for Foreflight. What am I doing wrong?
GeeBee Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 I experience it with one of my older devices. My new devices rip. 1
Rick Junkin Posted January 20 Author Report Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, GeeBee said: I experience it with one of my older devices. My new devices rip. I have an iPhone 14, a 6th generation iPad Pro, and a Mini 6, all with the latest OS. They all do the same thing. I’m convinced it’s because they belong to me. 1 3
Hank Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 Avare takes about 10 minutes to download my selected Sectionals and Approach Plates. The whole U.S. would take longer, and clog up my storage space with places I'll never fly . . .
Rick Junkin Posted January 20 Author Report Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Hank said: Avare takes about 10 minutes to download my selected Sectionals and Approach Plates. The whole U.S. would take longer, and clog up my storage space with places I'll never fly . . . Yeah we get it @Hank, you like what you have and that’s wonderful. We’re happy for you. 1
Flyler Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 I have an iPad 6 mini as well, and it doesn't take that long to download. You might try removing the app or clearing the data/storage for it then starting fresh. Hopefully that does the trick as it is the "nuclear" option... 1 1
Rick Junkin Posted January 20 Author Report Posted January 20 Just now, Flyler said: I have an iPad 6 mini as well, and it doesn't take that long to download. You might try removing the app or clearing the data/storage for it then starting fresh. Hopefully that does the trick as it is the "nuclear" option... Thanks @Flyler, I’m hoping to avoid that. The fact that all of my devices are doing the same thing makes me think it’s something I have selected. None of the devices are storage-limited. But I will give it a try anyway. 1
Hank Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Rick Junkin said: Yeah we get it @Hank, you like what you have and that’s wonderful. We’re happy for you. Well, everyone is complaining about FF and GP as if they're the only options. Some need to know there are other options. I haven’t tried GP, but did mess around a bit with Flight Plan Go, and know people who use it a lot (in Mooneys and in jets). But Avare works well for my needs, so I quit playing with FlightPlan Go.
Rick Junkin Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 Well, all's well that ends well, even if I haven't a clue as to why the downloads previous to today took hours. I just downloaded the latest GP nav and chart data cycle on all three devices in under 10 minutes on each of them. I didn't do anything to troubleshoot or correct the issue, it just worked. Closing the loop on this one. Thanks for the assistance. 1
MikeOH Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 @Rick Junkin Any chance others in your house were streaming movies over that same fiber connection the other times? Just a thought.
Rick Junkin Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 32 minutes ago, MikeOH said: @Rick Junkin Any chance others in your house were streaming movies over that same fiber connection the other times? Just a thought. Yeah, I thought of that and confirmed nothing else was sucking bandwidth. Pretty easy to do, it's just me and my wife here. I also tried to load up via Starlink at my hangar and no joy there either. I'm just going to chalk it up to a "huh, how 'bout that" event. 1
toto Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 GP has always been super crazy slow for me, on a gigabit home internet connection. It has never actually downloaded its own updates, which is an ongoing annoyance. I have to manually request the download, and it takes forever. And if I switch apps or the iPad goes to sleep, the download seems to pause until I bring focus back to the app. I’m generally a GP fanboy, and this is a pretty minor issue in the scheme of things, but the database downloads are crap. 1
kortopates Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 GP is super fast for me. i have both north america and south america jepp and the regular garmin downloads. I download the full 8GB in under 10 min at home with latest mini ipad. its only a bear with public wifi on a trip. Never at home and my service is with Spectrum.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
Flyler Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 12 hours ago, Rick Junkin said: Well, all's well that ends well, even if I haven't a clue as to why the downloads previous to today took hours. I just downloaded the latest GP nav and chart data cycle on all three devices in under 10 minutes on each of them. I didn't do anything to troubleshoot or correct the issue, it just worked. Closing the loop on this one. Thanks for the assistance. I work in IT and this is how most issues end up being resolved- it just starts working for an unknown reason. All you need to do now is tell me your address so I can send you an invoice. 4
Rick Junkin Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 49 minutes ago, Flyler said: I work in IT and this is how most issues end up being resolved- it just starts working for an unknown reason. All you need to do now is tell me your address so I can send you an invoice. The curious thing is that I was about to delete and reload GP on all three devices but decided to exercise the “insanity option” first - try doing the same thing over again and expect a different outcome - and low and behold it worked. I didn’t even do the common sense power off - power on step. As I discovered throughout my career, how you hold your mouth as you’re executing the steps to operate any technology influences the FM that makes all of this stuff work. 1 3
TangoTango Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 I wonder if the problem was congestion on the Garmin end of the pipe. If enough people are downloading chart updates at the same time, maybe it slows down until you try again at a less congested time? For what it's worth, I use the GP on Android and never have any trouble downloading chart updates. Maybe Garmin hosts those updates on a different server. I suppose it's also possible Garmin uses some kind of regional hosting solution for update data and some regions get more congested than others. 1
Rick Junkin Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, TangoTango said: I wonder if the problem was congestion on the Garmin end of the pipe. I had that thought as well but I couldn't find any mention of it online anywhere. You would think if this was a "thing" there would be some discussion of it on one of the aviation forums. However, I'll try to experiment with that idea when the next cycle comes out. Retired guys with time on their hands look forward to these kinds of activities. 1
Fly Boomer Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 7 hours ago, Rick Junkin said: The curious thing is that I was about to delete and reload GP on all three devices but decided to exercise the “insanity option” first - try doing the same thing over again and expect a different outcome - and low and behold it worked. I didn’t even do the common sense power off - power on step. As I discovered throughout my career, how you hold your mouth as you’re executing the steps to operate any technology influences the FM that makes all of this stuff work. Whenever I was having a problem with our software, invariably one of my colleagues would say "Huh, works on my machine". 1
McMooney Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 could be garmin, cloud provider, content delivery provider, internet who knows. I've noticed speed can be pretty random. android downloads work better than apple
Justin Schmidt Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 15 hours ago, Flyler said: I work in IT and this is how most issues end up being resolved- it just starts working for an unknown reason. All you need to do now is tell me your address so I can send you an invoice. You forgot the shutdown wait 10 sec reboot 1
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