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I am about ready to pick up my airplane after a engine swap including getting the governor rebuilt, minor rigging fix and installing a EI engine monitor. My new engine is from Texas Airpower and has the 2 independant magnetos. The cost to exchange and do the other work cost a fortune. Airpower engine was not cheap either but seemed the best route to go. I doubt if I can sell my plane for the amount I've invested. It recently had a paint job and new windows at Santa Maria. I guess our airplanes are like boats with unlimited costs. How much did you pay to get your engine swapped (labor and accessories)? Mine is over 10k.

Factory engine $28,600 delivered

Prop reseal 500$

pro governor exch OH 1200

hoses 900$

governor arm bracket 200$

fine wire spark plugs 500$

Adel clamps, scat hose, misc 700$

other misc stuff oil, filters, ties, engine mount primer 300$

shop labor, Owner assist 2100$

total 35,000.

Are yo saying the shop is charging you 10K in labor to swap engines?

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Factory engine $28,600 delivered

Prop reseal 500$

pro governor exch OH 1200

hoses 900$

governor arm bracket 200$

fine wire spark plugs 500$

Adel clamps, scat hose, misc 700$

other misc stuff oil, filters, ties, engine mount primer 300$

shop labor, Owner assist 2100$

total 35,000.

Are yo saying the shop is charging you 10K in labor to swap engines?

From Texas Air Power: engine, shipping, freight, insurance 32,000

core deposit 15,000 (haven't got this back yet)

Shop that did the exchange:R&R engine including, cleaning engine compartment, painting baffling making and installing new fuel line, and engine test $8,400

new vacuum pump 340.00, case of oil 73.00

cost to rebuild governor 1645.00

install EI UBG-16 1280.00

Train trip to pick up airplane about 50.00

Looks like you got a better deal, but you probably did part of the work yourself.

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core deposit 15,000 (haven't got this back yet)

This seems like the really scary part to me! You hope to get that money. If they call you back and tell you that your case, or crank is unusable, you only get a portion, or so I've been told.

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This seems like the really scary part to me! You hope to get that money. If they call you back and tell you that your case, or crank is unusable, you only get a portion, or so I've been told.

Dave

Not to be a shill for Lycoming (I am a happy owner after the 65 hour break-in period), but they took a rash of public backlash over core chargebacks a few years ago. They issued a public apology and changed their policy to if you return an operable, flying, complete engine you will not be charged for a core or portion thereof. Therefore, if your A3B6D is making metal and it trashes everything internal, its no problem. So long as it comes off the airplane as an operating, complete engine. They tore up our 14K check a couple weeks ago.

One of the things that pushed us into a factory engine was the unknown status of the internal parts. Things get expensive quickly when cranks, cases, or cylinders will not pass. "Once you open it up", as Lood says, "you own it".

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