TLS BRAVO IO540 ENGINE REPLACEMENT

[1980Mooney]

2 hours ago, Fly Boomer said:

There were 356 according to the chart in this thread:

http://www.mooneyspace.com/topic/47163-edit-eight-8-mooney-accidentsincidentsgear-ups-in-six-6-days

Not sure where those numbers came from.

The registered aircraft numbers came from the FAA, Canadian Civil Aircraft Registry, UK Civil Aviation Authority and the Australian Civil Aircraft Register databases.  The original numbers produced come from  the "Mooney Chronology" https://www.mooneyevents.com/chrono.htm and from 2005 on from the GAMA database production reporting https://gama.aero/facts-and-statistics/quarterly-shipments-and-billings/.  You can look at the serial numbers too with the more modern models.  In the 50's-60's Mooney just added a sequential serial number to each plane as it was built regardless of whether it was a C, D or E.  Ownership changed and practices changed.  At least the J and newer make some sense. According to the "Mooney Chronology" some serial numbers were skipped occasionally even with the newer models.

I would guess that the worldwide number of Bravos still flying is around 300 or less.

[affricate]

On 11/25/2023 at 12:58 AM, donkaye, MCFI said:

I'm on my 3rd engine.  The 2nd and 3rd are factors remans.  I wanted zero time engines.  Only Lycoming can do that.                          

Who did you use and how far in advance did you start the process?

[donkaye, MCFI]

7 hours ago, affricate said:

Who did you use and how far in advance did you start the process?

I used Air Power out of Texas. At the time delivery estimate was 8-10 weeks.  The second engine was ordered at the end of September and delivered on time in early December.  My understanding is that now delivery time is in excess of 2 years.  I don't know their process now, but at the time it was 10% down to order and balance of the payment before shipment.  You also had to provide a check for the core in case the returned core didn't meet their return criteria.  So far the check has always been returned.  If the requirements are the same today, I would be a very unhappy camper to basically be loaning the down payment for 2 years.

[affricate]

5 hours ago, donkaye, MCFI said:

I used Air Power out of Texas. At the time delivery estimate was 8-10 weeks.  The second engine was ordered at the end of September and delivered on time in early December.  My understanding is that now delivery time is in excess of 2 years.  I don't know their process now, but at the time it was 10% down to order and balance of the payment payment before shipment.  You also had to provide a check for the core in case the returned core didn't meet their return criteria.  So far the check has always been returned.  If the requirements are the same today, I would be a very unhappy camper to basically be loaning the down payment for 2 years.

I've used Air Power and like their prices and service. I've heard similar time frames from others. Just making sure I'm not missing anything. Appreciate the info. 

[T. Peterson]

I recently bought an overhauled engine from Western Skyways out in Colorado. I didn’t send mine in for overhaul as I didn’t want to be down for months. Airplane was down for 5 weeks and I have about 16 hours to reach the 50 hour break-in. I paid a 5000.00 deposit and got 4100.00 back. Apparently the cam was not repairable. I did not fuss about it as the engine had been in since 1991 and the plane had sat in a New Mexico hangar for 6 years. So far I am quite pleased.

[Schllc]

I would do a field overhaul before I waited two years for an engine. 
I got several quotes for a bravo engines about a year ago.  Prices were from high 50’s to 80’s. Exhaust was in the 80k