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My Mooney 252/Encore has a G500 and KFC 150 autopilot with altitude preselect. The preselect is now inop and I’m consider installing Garmin’s GAD 43e unit so I can altitude preselect directly on the G500. A GAD 43 is already installed, but doesn’t allow altitude preselect but the GAD 43e does. Has anyone done this upgrade and /or installed a GAD 43e?

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On 1/19/2022 at 10:24 AM, Jungle Pilot said:

My Mooney 252/Encore has a G500 and KFC 150 autopilot with altitude preselect. The preselect is now inop and I’m consider installing Garmin’s GAD 43e unit so I can altitude preselect directly on the G500. A GAD 43 is already installed, but doesn’t allow altitude preselect but the GAD 43e does. Has anyone done this upgrade and /or installed a GAD 43e?

I'm replacing the preselect in KFC150 with aG500 and GAD43e because it seemed too difficult to retain all the parts required to keep the altitude select working with the KAS297B.  Not impossible, but difficult.  So if yours was working, I will have the parts you may need to repair.

The KAS297 needs a grey code input from either the original KEA130 altimeter or a 'new' blind encoder.  It also needs a baro correction from the original KEA130, or from something like a GI-275.

I will be able to give you feedback on my GAD43e install soon.  Biggest issue so far has been the $$$ for the brick.

 

Aerodon

 

 

  • 5 months later...
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Hello Aerodon,

What’s the progress on your GAD43e install?  I have an existing analog encoding altimeter but can my G500 supply the grey code instead? Do you have a copy of the GAD43e installation manual?  
Thanks, Dave

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35 minutes ago, Jungle Pilot said:

Hello Aerodon,

What’s the progress on your GAD43e install?  I have an existing analog encoding altimeter but can my G500 supply the grey code instead? Do you have a copy of the GAD43e installation manual?  
Thanks, Dave

You’ll want to quote him or ping him @Aerodon so he knows you’re looking for an answer

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59 minutes ago, Jungle Pilot said:

Hello Aerodon,

What’s the progress on your GAD43e install?  I have an existing analog encoding altimeter but can my G500 supply the grey code instead? Do you have a copy of the GAD43e installation manual?  
Thanks, Dave

No I haven't finished the install.  Yes I have manuals for you - send me an email supercub180@gmail.com

No the G500 has no grey code output, at best the Garmin equipment has a serial altitude (no use) and a baro correction.  My plan is to keep a blind encoder for the KFC150, and use the GI-275 or GAD43e for the baro correction.

I will have 3 'altitude sources' in the plane - ADC74 airdata (master), GI-275 and the blind encoder.   My KAS297 already does not capture the correct altitude, took me a while to work out that it does work, but captures 300 feet high.  And there is a blind encoder, I suspect that was installed to make the GPS and transponder accurate, and there is an error in the KEA130.  

Aerodon

 

 

 

  • 2 years later...
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@Jetpilot86 I'm slumming it with my G500.   :)

 

How did the process work?  Did you have to actually do any wiring changes or was it basically plug and play?

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@wombat Maxwell did it for me, but I believe a wire for the altitude selector had to be run from the unit, in the avionics bay, to the PFD/Autopilot as part of the process. 
 

They may even still have my old KI275 altitude selector if someone is hunting one. 

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