tony Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 I'm not a CFI and maybe Parker can jump in here and give an opinion but will Robert have an issue when he goes for his checkride since there are no brakes on the right hand side? Quote
kerry Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Quote: tony I'm not a CFI and maybe Parker can jump in here and give an opinion but will Robert have an issue when he goes for his checkride since there are no brakes on the right hand side? Quote
jetdriven Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 thats an old wive tale. Find me a crash to read about. The stabilizer can stall in a long body, but doesnt cause a crash. Medium and short bodies, slip all you want. The tail cannot stall under normal conditions. Dont believe me? Look here: http://www.donkaye.com/Dons_Homepage/Bob_Krommer_on_Mooney_Slips-Part_1.html http://www.donkaye.com/Dons_Homepage/Bob_Krommer_on_Mooney_Slips-Part_2.html Quote: colojo Don't do any slips with full flaps. I've read articles about Mooneys that have crashed in this configuration because the horizontal stabilizer stalled (the flaps blocked airflow to the stabilizer). Quote
jetdriven Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 part of it depends on the attitude of the examiner. They dont have to do the check ride without fully functioning dual controls. Many will, though. Quote: kerry I think it would be OK to use the mooney for the checkride. The examiner is not PIC. Quote
Comatose Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 I did my checkride in a Cherokee 180 with a hand brake. Are brakes even considered flight controls? Quote
John Pleisse Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Discussing slips and spins in the context of a 13 hour primary who just bought a Mooney C model is IMHO a bit over the top. Basics. I am sure he'll be back for more. Quote
Joe Zuffoletto Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Quote: jetdriven I think this issue has been discussed quite enough already, and the documents you reference have already been posted. Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Quote: kerry I think it would be OK to use the mooney for the checkride. The examiner is not PIC. Quote
Joe Zuffoletto Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Just posting to turn off notifications.... Quote
jetdriven Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 So does a 172 in a flaps extended stall, and for the same reasons as well. The POH on those says "avoid slips with flaps extended". It is not a limitation, and I demonstrated it with all my students. Its a normal maneuver, and a useful one. Quote
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