201Mooniac Posted November 13 Report Posted November 13 1 hour ago, Thedude said: If you're going to puncture the filter and use air to push the oil from the filter back into the engine, isn't there a risk of pushing the stuff the filter caught back into the engine? The debris the filter catches is on the other side of the media. Quote
Lax291 Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 Just did my first oil change in Sept and used Form a Funnel under the filter and had no spills. But a newbie question about the filter, sounds like oil flows from the center through the media, is that correct? If so, any metal/FOD should be trapped in the inner filter media? I opened my filter to inspect and inside was nice and clean but then I started to worry seeing some small slivers on the outside part of the media. After thinking, I chalked it up to flakes coming off when I cut into the can but wanted to make sure. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 4 hours ago, 201Mooniac said: The debris the filter catches is on the other side of the media. Really, I have always found the crud on the outside of the filter. 1 Quote
slowflyin Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 11 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: Really, I have always found the crud on the outside of the filter. Correct, the oil enters the outer side of the filter (between the can and pleats) , passes through the media and exits from the inside of the filter. Any trapped contaminants will be in the pleats on the outside. When the can is pressurized the oil is forced (filtered) through the pleats and exits from the center of the filter back into the engine. This process is the same as a running engine. Therefore, if there are any debris from the tool piecing the can it will be filtered out. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 2 hours ago, slowflyin said: Correct, the oil enters the outer side of the filter (between the can and pleats) , passes through the media and exits from the inside of the filter. Any trapped contaminants will be in the pleats on the outside. When the can is pressurized the oil is forced (filtered) through the pleats and exits from the center of the filter back into the engine. This process is the same as a running engine. Therefore, if there are any debris from the tool piecing the can it will be filtered out. It seems like it would still leave a lot of oil in the filter. It can only push it out until the oil is below the center port, then it will just blow air through system. At least with a horizontal filter. If I leave it overnight almost all the oil will drain out. To do that some must be draining out from the outer area of the filter which means it is back flowing through the oil pump. Quote
201Mooniac Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 14 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: Really, I have always found the crud on the outside of the filter. Sorry, I wasn't clear about how I said that, I meant the debris is on the opposite side of the media from where the oil flows into the engine. You are correct about the crud being on the outside of the filter. Quote
slowflyin Posted November 14 Report Posted November 14 1 hour ago, N201MKTurbo said: It seems like it would still leave a lot of oil in the filter. It can only push it out until the oil is below the center port, then it will just blow air through system. At least with a horizontal filter. If I leave it overnight almost all the oil will drain out. To do that some must be draining out from the outer area of the filter which means it is back flowing through the oil pump. I was skeptical as well. My filter is horizontal. No mess and no waiting. The only place I can have a drop or two get away from me is the accessory case after I remove the filter. I need to remember to wipe off any residual or I'll get one or two drops. No buyers remorse! 2 Quote
Jsno Posted November 15 Report Posted November 15 It to tired of the mess so I installed a remote oil filter. Quote
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