Guitarmaster Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 If, in the future, anyone needs to expand upon, make good use of, or learn new profanity, I have the perfect job! Install windlace around the door of your vintage aircraft.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 5 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Hum, I used contact adhesive to hold the flange of the windlace in place until the screws through the trim pieces locked it down. It went fine. Of course this was the 3rd time I'd had it off to get it right. It took several days for everything to conform to where the door closed easily. Quote
Hank Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Did mine real easy. Dropped off my plane with ratty, frayed, peeling windlace at a nearby interior shop and went to lunch. Came back with a belly full of barbecue, gave the nice man $100 and flew home with a well-sealed door. 6 Quote
M20F Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Just now, Hank said: Did mine real easy. Dropped off my plane with ratty, frayed, peeling windlace at a nearby interior shop and went to lunch. Came back with a belly full of barbecue, gave the nice man $100 and flew home with a well-sealed door. I love working on my Mooney but somethings are worth a $100! 2 Quote
Yetti Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 did the baggage compartment.... Needle nose pliers to hold the speed nuts. and Awl to make the holes. scissor to cut the corners just right. And a fair amount of handyman shade tree mechanic know how to guess where the hole will be and pre punch it. A third hand may have also helped on the corners Quote
TTaylor Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Just did the door and baggage compartment two weeks ago. I believe Mooney installed the windlace and then built the airplane around it . About 15 hours total to replace both. Required dismantling the interior, loosening the panel, and much tedious work. 3 Quote
Marauder Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 If, in the future, anyone needs to expand upon, make good use of, or learn new profanity, I have the perfect job! Install windlace around the door of your vintage aircraft.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk LOL! You should have asked your fellow 1975 F owner. No level of chants were going to help you on that project. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
Marauder Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 If, in the future, anyone needs to expand upon, make good use of, or learn new profanity, I have the perfect job! Install windlace around the door of your vintage aircraft.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Don't take this the wrong way Matt. But you kind of remind me of my younger brother. Falls into the same category of advice I gave him as a kid; "I don't think you should stick that fork into the outlet" "Putting that jumper cable on the battery should be done with the key off" "Putting out a grease fire with water isn't a good idea" "Changing out the wind lace on a 1975 F model should be left to the professionals" Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 3 Quote
DXB Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 Did my passenger door successfully - it was a 3 hr PITA. Now I see my baggage door windlace disintegrating, but can't stand the idea of the contorsion required for that one though it's fewer screws 1 Quote
Guitarmaster Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Posted March 17, 2016 If, in the future, anyone needs to expand upon, make good use of, or learn new profanity, I have the perfect job!Install windlace around the door of your vintage aircraft.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Don't take this the wrong way Matt. But you kind of remind me of my younger brother. Falls into the same category of advice I gave him as a kid; "I don't think you should stick that fork into the outlet" "Putting that jumper cable on the battery should be done with the key off" "Putting out a grease fire with water isn't a good idea" "Changing out the wind lace on a 1975 F model should be left to the professionals" Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Who cares how you steer... JUST GO FASTER!! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 2 Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 I did my interior with my co-owner years ago now. Ya, that baggage door windlace is still not all the way in... Where is that barbecue place ? 2 Quote
Guitarmaster Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Posted March 19, 2016 have a great A&P/IA! What a great teacher! Add the mod and fix the cracked cowling. I'm learning so much! Love it!! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 Quote
RLCarter Posted March 19, 2016 Report Posted March 19, 2016 Which cowl mod is that? Lasar claims cooler and faster, anyone have a prep on them? Quote
Guitarmaster Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Posted March 19, 2016 Which cowl mod is that? Lasar claims cooler and faster, anyone have a prep on them? It's the LASAR mod. Cooler, faster AND quieter. We shall see! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote
RLCarter Posted March 19, 2016 Report Posted March 19, 2016 $500.00 seems cheap for all the gains, keep me posted on your results. Quote
3914N Posted March 21, 2016 Report Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/19/2016 at 7:11 PM, Guitarmaster said: It's the LASAR mod. Cooler, faster AND quieter. We shall see! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk I've talked to many people about this. Roughly half say it makes no measurable difference in speed or temps. Please let me know what your results are because I am considering it as well. $500 is cheap if it works, or a ripoff if it doesn't... Quote
Yetti Posted March 21, 2016 Report Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) I think we decided that the other mod (JPI) would do good, the Laser Mod not so much. Edited March 21, 2016 by Yetti Quote
Guitarmaster Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Posted March 21, 2016 I wouldn't have bothered with it, but for two reasons. 1. I have a couple friends that have it installed and gave me favorable reviews. 2. I flew with a guy at work that is an aeronautical engineer. He flys a Varieze. We talked a lot about cowling design and the high pressure area that builds up in front of a "guppy mouth" cowl. Essentially, there might as well be a large, flat plate on the front of the airplane. He showed me all the calculations (that are well beyond me) that support this. Although I don't know all the math behind it, I can visualize systems. It only makes sense that if you have more air trying to get in than can get out, there will be drag at the inlet. He has gained a number of knots from his plane by messing with the cowl. I will keep posted when/if my plane gets out of annual.. Seems like it's taking forever this year! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
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