ryoder Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 My Mooney has an old airplane smell and I think it's from the fifty year old carpet. I'd like to replace it, the seats, and plastic but for bang for the buck I think I should start with the carpet. Will I waste a lot of time if I don't do the seats at the same time? I haven't looked into the installation instructions or how it's anchored down yet. Do the seats bolt onto the carpet and have to be removed? How much effort is in that seat removal anyway? Any tips on carpet replacement? I am thinking of going with airtex. Quote
scottfromiowa Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Not a big deal. There is likely a cotter pin at rear of tracks. Remove and push seat back off tracks and up/out. Carpet is commonly glued with an adhesive. Talking 30 minutes to do this... 1 Quote
Danb Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Airtex is a good way to go.good people to deal with or there was a few yrs ago when I dealt with them Quote
ryoder Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Posted July 24, 2014 Great! Hey so if the carpet is glued down don't they have to remove it to so annual inspections? Wouldn't it be better to have it velcroed or snapped in place? Glad you guys like airtex. Quote
rubixcube2k3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I have a '75C and you may want to also check with Mike Hudyma at SCS Interiors. (www.scs-interiors.com) Â They provided everything for me last year. My IA helped me to Apply Adhesive to the back of velcro and the back of the carpet for the mating velcro. Installed and it looks, feels, smells, and holds position great. Â They were very reasonable and were able to get me the lower kick panels, pilot and copilot carpet, rear bench carpet and baggage compartment carpet for a fraction of where I found it elsewhere. 1 Quote
rubixcube2k3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Also, Seat Removal is a piece of cake. Pop out the cotter pins in the rear (or hitch pins if you had someone install the wrong equipment like I did initially) and slide the seat all the way back. When the back comes off the track, slide it all the way forward and lift the front. Place something protective and soft on your wing if you are taking it out by yourself, unless you can get it out, and get out of the cabin without sitting it down. (Very difficult task, but I may have tried it once successfully, and once without success). 1 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 I don't glue the carpet down. Just put 2 PK screws with finish washers at the back of the passenger carpet. The fuel selector bezel will hold the pilots carpet down. The passenger will always scooch the carpet forward. Quote
ryoder Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Posted July 24, 2014 Airtex charges a lot more for the kick panels than their carpet but their carpet kit is lower cost than scs. Does the scs kit listed on their website include kick panels for $450? Did you get ensolite? Is it worth it? I have a '75C and you may want to also check with Mike Hudyma at SCS Interiors. (www.scs-interiors.com) Â They provided everything for me last year. My IA helped me to Apply Adhesive to the back of velcro and the back of the carpet for the mating velcro. Installed and it looks, feels, smells, and holds position great. Â They were very reasonable and were able to get me the lower kick panels, pilot and copilot carpet, rear bench carpet and baggage compartment carpet for a fraction of where I found it elsewhere. Quote
rubixcube2k3 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Seems like the total with SCS was somewhere just north of $750 for everything. I did have to send them my original kickpanels and they "re-covered" with UltraLeather. I didd not get ensolite. Was there previously, but after 10+ hours of cleaning the floor just to get the new carpet prepared for installation, I decided against it under the new carpet. Quote
Marauder Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Seems like the total with SCS was somewhere just north of $750 for everything. I did have to send them my original kickpanels and they "re-covered" with UltraLeather. I didd not get ensolite. Was there previously, but after 10+ hours of cleaning the floor just to get the new carpet prepared for installation, I decided against it under the new carpet. You have any photos of the stuff you bought? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Bob_Belville Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 After trying a couple of other brilliant ideas I use and recommend industrial strength Velcro. $10 worth is more than enough. Stays firmly in place when the fat lady in the back seat tries to move it but easily removed for floor access or even carpet cleaning.   www.amazon.com/Velcro-Brand-Industrial-Strength-Inches/dp/B00006IC2T Quote
AmigOne Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Also, Seat Removal is a piece of cake. Pop out the cotter pins in the rear (or hitch pins if you had someone install the wrong equipment like I did initially) and slide the seat all the way back. When the back comes off the track, slide it all the way forward and lift the front. Place something protective and soft on your wing if you are taking it out by yourself, unless you can get it out, and get out of the cabin without sitting it down. (Very difficult task, but I may have tried it once successfully, and once without success). Â In multiple experiences in my 68C it is a lot easier to take them out that to put them back, specially the copilot's seat. Â For me it is definitely a two person job, one to push forward from the back seat and the other to push down on the front of the seat to make it fit in the rail cut out. Â I guess it depends what kind of enclosure you have over the nose wheel well, in my situation the front edge of the seat hits the enclosure before I can fit the front legs of the seat and by myself I cannot force the seat forward enough and push down at the same time. Â Â Quote
AmigOne Posted July 24, 2014 Report Posted July 24, 2014 Forgot to mention that the original carpets that I removed were set in place with double sided carpet tape. Â Found a similar tape at Lowe's and it worked as intended. Quote
ryoder Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Posted July 24, 2014 I like the carpet tape idea. Seems pretty simple. About the ensolite, is it a sound deadening thing? I want to do whisper at some point. Does whisper go under the carpet and if so wouldn't the ensolite be a replacement for it? Quote
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