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unfortunately,the same aspect of our Mooneys that we are drawn to ,namely there speed,makes them (and bonanzas)less desirable in an off airport controlled crash.If it was my choice I would prefer to mush down at 35 or40 in a Maule,supercub or husky with the same chrome/moly steel cage that we tout in our mooneys as being so crash worthy..its just the square of the velocity that you cant change no matter what you fly..kp couch

The big differene is the Primary Flight Display half of the g500/600 and its reliable ,weight saving air data and attitude reference computers.You would be getting rid of your spinning gyros and using an interface box drive your autopilot.The Question I would ask is can you interface your 480 with the g500/g600 and use it instead of a 430/530 gn 750 gps navigators...kpc

I can only speak of how Mooney mounted them on my Bravo....no bracket at all..they are supported by vacumn hose itself...mounted in most open convenient non chaffing spot....kp couch

hi Paul...good to finally meet you at TVL this weekend.I wonder how 1/3 % IPA could possibly degrade fuel system rubber components ???I remember when MTBE was an additive sold in all automotive fuels in California and elsewhere in the 90 s as a pollution control.I recall a lot of complaints and letters to the airresources board complaining of ruined carbs ,the mtbe ate the rubber in old carbs...I wonder if this is how rubber degradation from isoproanol alcohol in gasoline got started???I have used alcor tcp in a helicopter engine as a lead scavenger...plugs cleaner etc...not in the Mooney though due to expense...regards k p couch

for repairs of this type..I recomend hysol...an aerospace 2 part epoxy that is thixotropic...it wont run and though it takes 24hrs to set is really tough stuff...use regular masking tape to make a former...apply good layer of hysol with or without glass cloth..than peel tape and finsh with a dremmel sanding disk...makes a good perment repair...kpc

Nick...nothing personel,but try to look beyond your own narrow perspective and irritation.The ambassadors program is so much more than "supporting " a company or brand,it is supporting the entire general avation sector.In standing together and spending a little time with the general public,we are supporting (and protecting)our selves.In 40 years of my involvement with general avation..I frankly have seen nothing like it.Oh..and Nick..if you think you are having problems contacting Mooney now...I have to tell you my first a/c I owned was a Stinson,..a company that pretty much folded in 1947!!!I had a little trouble getting them on the phone also!!!!sinc kp couch

Congrats on the new bird...I believe I saw it out on the ramp last weekend @ Heber valley ...very nice...kp couch

oh oh....you should have had a signed buy /sell agreement...spelling out that the purchase /bill of sale/delivery was to be conducted out of state ..in your case Deleware.What i would do after reading the florida requirements is to send to Florida tax people...1..notarized under penalty of perjury from the owner that you took delivery of the a/c in deleware.2same statement notarized from the delivery pilot 3 proof you registered a/c out of state4 proof a/c has not returned to florida...(use flight aware to back up log stements)This final thing is to avoid not sales tax but use tax..good luck..6%is 6% and most states are broke..the bad thing is they wanted you to provide this 10 days after purchase..not 6 months..good luck..kpc

Tim...hopefully when you pickup bravo there will be at least 2 masks/cannulas..etc....the adaptor you need is the scott bayonet type o2 plug...about 3 in long with 2 prongs on either side...usually you can slip off old cannulas and cut off the funnel shaped adaptor on your medical type...then the tubing will fit onto the barbs of the little regulator valve....insert scott plug into 1 of the 4 recepticals and to start flow turn knob clockwise 90 degrees...I adjust flow (starting about 5000 ft)so ball is on top of altitude line I amgoing to and I usually leave it there....If all that is in the airplane is a Mask..(scott type)you can seperate the vinyl hose from the regulator valve if installed....re the accident posted...I read thru this and believe it occoured by piggy backing the pulse demand system up stream of a oxymiser adj flow rate valve..the mountain high system wants to see a 2.5 liter/60psi at the source to be certified...good luck on your new bird and remember long bodies land a little differently...kp couch

yikes my typing was really stinko in that last post!!!!No wonder I never get a replys using PSK 31!!!..LOL kpc

Loran,omega,adf...LOL..lots of funny replys and had no idea of the # of Hams onboard.....anydody doing any aernautical mobile ops just for grins???M016576...I will try..the ground stations recieved the some satalite signals as our airbourne equipment...but they insert a correction based on their known precise position.That correction travels thru phone lines to the sat ground station in Virginia and broadcast backup to the original satalite.The Sat in orbit broadcasts that correction factor and our airborne recievers apply it.The solar flare besides containing speed of light photons and xrays and other good stuff puts out a lot of slower moving protons as a residue of atomic fusion.When this cloud of protons hits the atmospere (F layer ionospere)it creates an ionization layer much more reflective than regular sunlight.Result is good propagation of earth generated radio waves(they get reflected and bounce up and down for long distances)radio blackouts from too much ionization..of in case of radio signal from space to ground ,gets reflected back into space .This is highly frequency dependent and gps signals are ultra high frequency...so can pass thru easier...but this last flare was very powerful...m9.3 almost a x(ten) event so scientists didnt really know for sure...kp c ouch

Tim ..from your first post inquiring about what is needed to convert your medical use cannulas to aircraft use..it is pretty obvious from your question that you are really not familar with the scott system.The reason i am pursuing this dialog is that because the power of the internet,when someone makes a definative statement citing an absolute("Makes no difference ")it really sounds my alarm bells...especially coming from someone who i think hasnt a lot of experience with high altitude flight.My reaction was ..someone coming along will treat this statement as gospel as you obviously believe...About 20 years ago in preparation for a glider altitude record ,I did a lot research on O2 use ,and had a chance to spend a lot of time with Jerry Nelson (He sold his oxymizer /aircraft business years ago).Jerry was probably the first to adapt a medical device (The 02 saving oxymizer cannula)to aircraft use.He had a lot of help...the (flawed)1982 NCBI study using 6 individuals in an altitude chamber and at a flow rate of 2.5liter -1 min they proved adequate oxygenation of all subjects up to 18000 regardless of inspiration route.Other studies using resting patients ,again at 2.5 liter - min showed the same thing generally...no difference.No doubt this is where you carry your professional knowledge to a dangerous assumption.The constant flow regulator in your new Bravo will deliver 2.5 liter per min (assuming its in good working order ..1997 who knows??)but when Jerry Nelson worked out the metering and calibration with a PHD/MD anesth./pilot/ame consultant help (the flow rate #s on the 0xymizer tubes he found adequate oxygenation was achieved at a .6liter level,and all subsequent Nelson oxymizer/flowrate tubes/metering valves are guranteed to provide .7liters/min.Adequate oxygenation was found to occur under flight testing employing nose breathing only not either/or as done in previous studies using the old increased flow rate.He also found using pulse oxymetry that individuals under stress like pilots flying in difficult IFR required more,and he printed recomendations .Mountain air with there pulse system prints a warning..DO NOT MOUTH BREATH in large red print in there operating instructions.I have been trying to locate my copy of the shallow breathing article the mountain high folks use...when i do I will PM you and send as well as the warning statements I have uncovered.My final recomendation is if you plan to employ medical cannulas ,and plan to mouth breath,than I would plug them directly into the outlet with out the secondary metering valve at the 2.5 liter rate...hope no offense is taken and no spears at your EMT /scuba Nitrox training is intended...I just think you are making the wrong assumption...ok???..ps..congrats on the new Bravo..sinc kp couch

qsl...k6zk,extra class

Just saw on av web about the possibilty of GPS signal disruption occuring after last thursdays rather energetic solar flare.Any of you operating amateur radio equipment late fri night and sat saw some amazing propagation...especially on 20 meter band.Anyway it looks like we are coming out of a 10/11 year solar minimum into a maximum.Gps ,especially waas was not widely used 10 years ago during last solar maximum,so who knows???Anybody with wass gps units see any disruption last sat ???I flew Sat morning to get cheap gas...no problems in northern calif...sinc kp couch

Wolf...your statement that mouth breathing while wearing a nasal canula is as effective as nasal breathing is not accurate ..the two systems work on different premises.From your emt training ..you place a nasal cannula on your patient and than adjust flow rate (probably 7 liters flow rate)Or more probably you use a mask..either way at the flow rates being delivered your patient is getting adequate oxygenization no matter how they breath...not so with an aircraft system...it is calibrated to conserve o2 use and only enriches ambient air.If you place your cannula and start your flow say at 15k and than proceed to mouth breath...you will see your %oxygenation decrease very rapidly.When you pickup up your Bravo...try it...and report back...The instructions are quite clear for nasal cannula use vs mask use...cannula use is approved to 18k but requires a clear nasal airway...no allergies or head cold..if that is the case than its mouth breathing using a mask...sinc kelly p couch...ps..regarding carbon monoxide...we use a detector in our Bravo and experience elevated CO levels on takeoff while cowl flaps are deployed.The device we are using is a keyfob style detector that reads very low to zero CO while held directly in the exaust stream of a chev pickup with catalylser.100 ppm is not unusual during takeoff that reduces to 10 or 15 ppm in cruise with cowlflaps/gear doors etc closed...kpc

So jlundreth...if you have turn up the flow rate that high on the cannulas(doesnt matter if its reservoir type or not)to get your saturation up past 90...how long does your 104 cubic bottle last???Do you or your passengers have allergies..have you read the studies of shallow breathing syndrome??I think it was published by mountain high people.Any way that is why we use the pulse oxymeters....many people cannot get adequate saturation by nose breathing only..even on the ground at sea level....interesting post ..thanks alot..kp couch

nah...I dont think thats the answer either.....someone pulling mr camera mans leg!!!LOL..kpc

jlunseth....Did you notice the std side calibration goes up to 25 k...I think that is the mask side setting...the left side calibration is the cannula side.I agree using that setting will certainly "force " O2 at a higher flow rate...but I think you are wasting Oxygen....you probably notice a constant flow into your nostrils ..right???sinc kp couch

wolf...i used aviation oxygen . com...your Bravo should have come with at least a couple cannulas..i alcohol them off using qtips...if that grosses you out...you will need oxymizers with the scott plug...the new glowmizers are cool and easy too adjust...unlike jlunseth...I do recomend the mustache cannulas..that is where the reservoir is located and a straight medical o2 oximizer is NOT calibrated to any flow meter presently availble...Also beware using the mountain high pulse demand system,,....remember the scott/aveox regulator system is altitude compensating all by itself....(installed in the brave)The oxymizer cannulas work well to provide over 90%saturation up to 18000 ft than its masktime...one with a mike will set you back 400 bucks!!Scott makes cheaper ones and its no big deal to slip mask off for atc transmissions...cograts on the Bravo...sinc kp couch

IT is fixed now..kp couch

Borealone...I would make a water landing in a Mooney by mentally creating a "runway"into the wind if possible and say no further from shore than 50 ft.I would use the yoke back tail mush landing only if I experienced a severe bounce because the risk of a real stall just feet from the surface is too great with a land pilot who had never botched a water landing before.(Borrealone is referring to a method to correct a bounced landing in a lake amphib...Why not just add power you ask like we do in a mooney??..because the engine being mounted high on a pylon and facing backwards tends to push the nose down upon powerup)Anyway...Once I had my imaginary 2000 ft next to shore..I would do what every Mooney pilot knows how to do...Make a normal flaps down,70mph approach EXCEPT WITH THE GEAR RETRACTED...I believe it will be a total non event...and you will have time to grab a seat cushion (Yep they float just fine)and dog paddle to shore....hopefully this isnt the dead of winter...dont be surprised if when you reach shore your once proud bird will still be floating...I have heard of real tight birds taking 1/2 hour to sink.During war world 2 my father water landed a Gooneybird (DC 3) of the coast of Tunisia (Mediterrean) after being shot up by an enemy fighter.He was able to exit onto a patrol boat who later had to sink it as a hazard to navigation because the dc 3 with empty tanks would not sink!!!kp couch

who was it who said...there are lies,damned lies and statisics!!!

this story really cracks me up...just like homeland security making a 90 year old remove her adult diaper!!!Now that is what I call a threat to the nation!!!OOOH DOGGIES..kpc

same here...very odd ..also no way to post additional replies...I think Mitch broke it!!!!!..kpc

yikes....that would be a rare sight where I live...hope its back to normal soon...kpc