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IO-360 ‘warm engine’ start on M20J
Mooney in Oz replied to Tiny18Driver's topic in Modern Mooney Discussion
If mine has been shutdown for longer than about 20-30 minutes, I fully open the throttle, give it a quick half a second boost pump squirt of fuel, close the throttle then do a normal start. This method generally works for me provided I don’t over do it with the boost pump. -
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Tiny18Driver started following IO-360 ‘warm engine’ start on M20J
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Hi all- Does anyone have thoughts on starting a sort-of warm engine that’s most likely in vapor lock? Hot start— check, no issues. Standard cold start— check no issues. Flooded start— check, no issues. An engine that has sat for about 2 hours— kicking my butt. Previous chats and the internets suggest going with a hot engine start (throttle - slightly in, mixture - cutoff, no boost). That’s not really working. My Plan B has been to boost it to a flooded state (checklist style with throttle cracked, and mixture rich) then doing the AFM Flooded Engine Start. Also not really working. Now I’ve seen a suggestion to boost it to a flooded state by: Mixture - Rich, Throttle - FULL OPEN, Boost pump - ON 3-5 seconds, then crank with Throttle - ~1000RPM, Mixture - Idle/Cutoff. I guess it sort of makes sense to boost with throttle fuel open to purge fuel lines of vapor, but that’s a new one to me… so I now open the floor for suggestions. Cheers!
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Well for whatever it is worth it I went to fly the M20C from my 93 year old friend who now prefers to fly dual... I was surprised at the speed that this little carbureted airplane is able to achieve (I fly an M20M). Does this seem normal? It does have all kind of speed mods including J windshield and fairings and gap seals etc. but still has the 180HP engine.
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Well The Village People are popular again
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I've been twice, haven't been asked to drop trou. But my former urgent care place has turned into family medicine (found out when I got sick and popped in), so need a new place. Will talk to my new doc, sadly not nearly as close to the house . . .
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Let's hope it doesn't evolve to ramp checks.
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NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
PeterRus replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
Mooney Part 914004-000 Click #1 -- LASAR is $270: https://lasar.com/hardware-bolts/machined-bolt-nose-gear-914004-000 Click #2 -- non-LASAR: $18: https://www.altairaircraft.com/products/914004-000-mooney-texas-several-machined-bolt-nose-gear-price-per-each Not available, but nevertheless I'd like to meet the person who slaps a $300 price tag on a bolt.. Sad, very sad. -
My Basic Med doc asked to see my anus, so I bent over spread my butt cheeks and said, "See! No contraband, no shivs!"
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MKEgal joined the community
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30% increase is maybe reasonable if we can get the parts we need. But, when I ordered a part from Lasar and Mooney sent it directly to me the forgot to remove the invoice to Lasar. Sadly Lasar added 60% on top of the Mooney price just to order that part. Sure, Price and Demand... But 60% markup is ridiculous... and now an additional 30% on that. I would be much more happy to give that 60% markup directly to Mooney instead of Lasar.
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numbers look realistic, think for longevity max TIT is 1600 and max CHT is 400, as log as these numbers are not exceeded the engine can be run at 78% power in cruise, think the peak TIT numbers can be sustainably achieved at the bottom of the power chart, let's say below 60% power for long range cruise, with that in mind the engine is not that much of a primadonna, just my personal opinion after running it for about 650h over7 years
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Well, you see, a lot of us pilots are... ah, well... let's just say it's important that we get examined. More seriously, though, in additonal to colorectal cancer and prostate cancer (or severe hypertrophy), hemorrhoids can also be a relevant finding from an occupational medicine standpoint (lotta sitting in this hobby). But, from having recently looked at this again from the patient side, I believe they can simply decide that history, symptoms, and demographics don't suggest any problem and defer the examination. Didn't used to always be the case. And often isn't on the military side. But, no, a class II/III doesn't always need to get what an older grizzled doc once described to me as "your yearly greeting from the Naval Chief of Staff".
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McMooney started following What to replace seats on M20E
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I'm taking mine to a sweet upholstery shop that handles my cars. planning on a peanut butter quilted look, maybe peanut butter seating with black sides, kinda like the new denali ultimate
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Aero Comfort 210-340-0177. Hector. Redid my seats. Easy to work with. Very accommodating. Will build to what you want or will give you clues to comfort. All certified.
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NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
1980Mooney replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
I think people get "cynicism" mixed up with "realism". This continuing notion that Mooney International can continue structured as an aircraft manufacturer while only having a future as a replacement parts supplier leads to this continuous unsustainable negative cash flow. Mooney is carrying the liability of the aircraft it manufactured 2014-2019 into the later part of the next decade. The turns into legal expense, insurance expense, filing expense. As painful as it sounds, Mooney needs to file bankruptcy, get rid of all its liabilities, shrink down to the smallest footprint needed to just manufacture Mooney parts or maybe even license someone else to build them. They don't need a CEO, COO and Chief Engineer. They just need a plant manager. Otherwise it just drains anyone that tries to do it. It drained the Chinese and they brought buckets of cash. It drained the "US Financial" investors and I don't think that they brought any cash. And it will drain LASAR too if they are unrealistic and overpromise. -
Need Help With A Part: Lasar DOUBLER - 680031-029
JoeM replied to PeteMc's topic in General Mooney Talk
I Saw that. The part number is the same but the picture is different. -
Need Help With A Part: Lasar DOUBLER - 680031-029
1980Mooney replied to PeteMc's topic in General Mooney Talk
680031–029 Propeller Doubler Spinner McCauley Hartzell | eBay It says that they have two (2) available and they are Yellow tagged. -
Need Help With A Part: Lasar DOUBLER - 680031-029
JoeM replied to PeteMc's topic in General Mooney Talk
I need to two doublers part number 680031-029 if anyone has spares. -
NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
Stubby replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
I agree 100% Call me crazy, but I don't think a 30% increase is that out of line. Especially when we already know that the current prices don't really mean a thing if their respective parts aren't even available. -
NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
Ryan ORL replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
This sure is a cynical group. Personally, I would rather have expensive-but-available Mooney parts than cheap-but-unavailable parts. I only rarely need actual Mooney parts but when I do need them, it's usually something standing between me and actually using my airplane.- 16 replies
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NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
1980Mooney replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
You are correct - your last sentence captures it perfectly. The only time that Mooney was able to "spread it (fixed costs) out over volume" was when they were making aircraft. As Maxwell said previously - Mooney can't make it on selling parts alone. If it could, then it would be humming along with Meijing still owning it. And what about the owner investor group, US Financial, that supposedly bought 80% of the company? - why didn't they provide this finance that LASAR "claims" it will bring? Now they have a "middleman" with lofty titles of CEO and COO. Mooney still has people with CEO, COO and Chief Engineer titles. What exactly does the COO at Mooney do (and what is Mooney paying for) if LASAR is "Building the plan: Sequenced a Year-1 ~$3M parts build by safety-of-flight impact and lead times.... Tightening the plumbing: Clear change control, traceable paperwork, and purchasing tied to real shop schedules."?? There is another thing that makes no sense here - perhaps business owners or those involved in a company's finances spotted it in the announcement. Mooney International (the company) is not covering it's costs so Mooney is increasing the prices it charges for products that it makes. That increased revenue (and margin) goes into Mooney's pocket - not into LASAR's pocket. But LASAR claims "LASAR Aviation is the entity keeping Mooney funded". If so LASAR will want to earn a return on that - that means LASAR needs to mark-up the price that they pay Mooney for the parts. I wager that they will mark-up another at least 10-20% for the prices that they sell to MSC's. So in reality prices are probably going up 50%. They may have good intentions but this could easily overwhelm them. On Facebook Mooney Pilots someone commented "The 30% increase right off the bat is a load of $h*t. They (LASAR) can’t even keep their own over priced parts in stock, what makes them think they can take on the whole Mooney catalog?" -
Open Door In Flight training?
DavePage replied to wombat's topic in Mooney Safety & Accident Discussion
No Truer Words ever spoken ! Preflight, even w/ someone standing around makes the hairs on the back of my neck curl. I HATE it !! Now I demand total silence, and go stand . . . Over There. -
NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
Marc_B replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
Lasar website no longer has a link for Parts. Curious if the direct to consumer parts has changed? -
I bought some rear headrests once from a 1996-2002 4Runner that worked
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NEW NEWS FROM LASAR AND MOONEY AS OF 10/2/2025
1980Mooney replied to cliffy's topic in General Mooney Talk
LASAR is not a large company...they are a small company. LinkedIn shows 18 employees. When they announced they were moving to Prineville a few years ago, they told the press that they expected about 25 jobs. D&B Hoovers shows revenue to be $1.2 million. Even if these numbers are slightly off, LASAR is a tiny company in the scheme of things. No wonder they used AI to draft the letter. -
Repair/Replacement Options for the Electric Cowl Flaps Motor
KSMooniac replied to JohnM's topic in Modern Mooney Discussion
BAS put an 880050-501 from an M20M on ebay this morning.