kerry Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 Seems like I read on the forum not long ago that someone was looking for a rocket. I saw this one on ebay. Thought I'd mention it.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-MOONEY-M20-K-ROCKET-CONV-LOW-TIME-LOADED-SPEED-BRAKES-430-WAAS-FAST-/190824936830?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item2c6e0d757e Quote
KSMooniac Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 There is a thread on here somewhere already about that plane... it warrants a very close inspection. Quote
rbridges Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 There is a thread on here somewhere already about that plane... it warrants a very close inspection. $75k for a mooney rocket with a low time engine. what's to be suspicious about? 1 Quote
ChrisH Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 I've searched for the tail, and registration # on the web and faa incident database, and can't find anything. What's the scoop on this plane? I did find some engine logs pdf's on the web, looks like it had an incident that resulted in a prop-strike, but no further information on the incident. Not that I'm interested, but curious. Quote
LFOD Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 This plane is located right around the corner from me so if anyone is interested, I can take a look for you. Matt Quote
bd32322 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 I found a nose gear collapse from 2006 and a landing loss of control accident resulting in collapsed gear and 3 feet of left wing tip damage from 2011. That was just a casual look, though. Jim which site did you use to find out? I couldn't find any accident reports on the plane either - I remain disinterested in the plane but am smarting from my inability to find things on the web (used both tail number and serial number) Quote
N601RX Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 The 1st tipoff that this plane has had enough damage to be totaled by the insurance company is the name of its previous owner. http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N1170U Quote
benpilot Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 That guy would be me! I want a Mooney Rocket! BUT looking at the previous issues I would be concerned. I'd rather pay a few bucks more for a pristine Rocket with upgraded avionics for IFR flight and added bonus leather seats and long range tanks. Quote
RJBrown Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 The last owner listed before Jerry Pressley is: Dean- William R632 Point Mountain Rd Webster Springs, WV 26288 Phone: (304) 847-5929 He may be able to provide background. 4/15/2011 APPROXIMATELY 1230 PILOT ^PRIVACY DATA OMITTED^ EXPERIENCED HARD LANDING AT PINEVILLE WV (I16). PILOT STATED THAT JUST BEFORE LANDING (TOUCH DOWN) THAT IT FELT LIKE ALL THE AIR WENT OUT FROM UNDER THE WINGS AND THE PLANE FELL.ON SITE:INCIDENT OCCURRED WHILE LANDING ON RUNWAY 8, AIRCRAFT STALLED NOSE DOWN. AIRCRAFT MADE TOUCH DOWN CENTER OF RUNWAY THRESHOLD. (PROP STRIKE) AND LEFT WING TIP DOWN CONTACTING RUNWAY SURFACE BEFORE FULL TOUCH DOWN. DAMAGE:LEFT WING TIP APPROXIMATELY 3 FEET INBOARD BENT UPWARD. LEFT MAIN GEAR ASSEMBLY BENT INWARD. NOSE GEAR RUBBER SHOCK MOUNTS BLOWN. PROP STRIKE. I assume the plane was totaled and rebuilt by a salvage operator. (Jerry P.) First post crash owner is trying to sell after less than 1 year. A lot of investigation would be needed to ascertain condition. http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/AircraftDetailPage Then enter 1170U Quote
rbridges Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 First post crash owner is trying to sell after less than 1 year. A lot of investigation would be needed to ascertain condition. http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/AircraftDetailPage Then enter 1170U I don't know what the going price is for a rocket, but I bet it's north of $75K. It just smells fishy. Quote
ChrisH Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 Wow, scary to run that on your own plane, btw 1163d runs great even with it's history, that was all news to me until today. BTW, thanks for buzzkilling my day letting find my own damage history. So, you can put these planes back together to fly well straight, true and fast. Quote
N601RX Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 The key is who puts them back together and what their motive is. Unfortunately often it is to sell for largest profit possible which often results in shortcuts and undocumented repairs. Quote
jetdriven Posted April 18, 2013 Report Posted April 18, 2013 Anything that went through Jerry Pressley's hands is a deathtrap. He already sold a couple of submarine Mooneys too. I emailed him about one of them on eBay. He said "these new avionics work great". ----------------------------- ha ha no problem. looked bad then didnt it? took months to go thru it even to extent of treating the Inside of the tubing structure. didnt hurt the avionics as they all light up and work great. new technology is great eh? jerry - aap3670 From: cessna421c To: aap3670 Subject: Re: Other: cessna421c sent a message about ULTIMATE MOOONEY. HAS IT ALL. #270761911215 Sent Date: Jun-08-11 02:02:02 PDT Dear aap3670, is this the same plane? http://www.avclaims.com/N9218M%20Photos.htm 1 Quote
benpilot Posted April 19, 2013 Report Posted April 19, 2013 Ouch think I will pass on this one. Quote
bnicolette Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 It's back!!! Oh and it's listed for $14K more than it was before. Interesting sales tactic? The seller said that he had the annual done and dealt with a 337 issue so that's why it's listed for more. I don't remember the original ad saying anything about a 337 issue? Drives me nuts when sellers try to pass known issues on to a unsuspecting buyer!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-MOONEY-M20-K-ROCKET-CONV-LOW-TIME-LOADED-SPEED-BRAKES-430-WAAS-FAST-/190854906111?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item2c6fd6c0ff&vxp=mtr#ht_25985wt_1137 Quote
benpilot Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 Wowzer! I am sure glad to be patient and do my homework and so forth before rushing anything. You guys rock, save me thousands of $$$ and potential deathtrap as well. I hope to pass my checkride in 2 weeks been practicing with a former DPE who is helping me polish my skills. Spent today reviewing maintenance logs for the plane I am using on the checkride too. Quote
OR75 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 reviewing maintenance logs for the plane you will be using on the checkride ??? to make sure those bearings have been properly greased ? Quote
Hank Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 reviewing maintenance logs for the plane you will be using on the checkride ??? to make sure those bearings have been properly greased ? The DPE here reviews the aircraft logs to make sure it is airworthy. Takng a few minutes at the FBO with a pad of post-its to mark important items is time well spent. I've heard of one person here who didn't do this, something wasn't right and the plane was grounded 42 nm away until the A&P flew there to correct it. [Not folklore, both the FBO owner and the mechanic told me about this and identified the aircraft to me.] Goo job there, Newbie! Trust, but verify. Quote
N601RX Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 The DPE here also goes through the logs before a checkride. He has canceled checkrides before because of it. Quote
OR75 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 The DPE here reviews the aircraft logs to make sure it is airworthy. Takng a few minutes at the FBO with a pad of post-its to mark important items is time well spent. I've heard of one person here who didn't do this, something wasn't right and the plane was grounded 42 nm away until the A&P flew there to correct it. [Not folklore, both the FBO owner and the mechanic told me about this and identified the aircraft to me.] Goo job there, Newbie! Trust, but verify. the pilot is responsible to check the A/C is airworthy ... usually 100h inspection complied with in the case of a rental. i don't get your example above ? they grounded the plane 42 nm away because there was something in the maintenance log ? or was the a mechanical issue in flight ? Quote
N601RX Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 In the case of a DPE giving a PPL checkride is the DPE not the PIC? Otherwise he is a passenger and students are not allowed to take passengers. He is just making sure the plane is legal. The local DPE has told me that he has had students show up in planes out of annual, AD's not complied with, expired transponder checks, missing registration card, ect. Quote
KSMooniac Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 It's back!!! Oh and it's listed for $14K more than it was before. Interesting sales tactic? The seller said that he had the annual done and dealt with a 337 issue so that's why it's listed for more. I don't remember the original ad saying anything about a 337 issue? Drives me nuts when sellers try to pass known issues on to a unsuspecting buyer!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-MOONEY-M20-K-ROCKET-CONV-LOW-TIME-LOADED-SPEED-BRAKES-430-WAAS-FAST-/190854906111?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item2c6fd6c0ff&vxp=mtr#ht_25985wt_1137 I believe there were some un- or poorly-documented major repairs on this plane, so perhaps he got the proper coverage for those, or had them redone and documented correctly. That certainly cost money. Quote
benpilot Posted June 14, 2013 Report Posted June 14, 2013 Agree I took notes on the dates for the annuals performed on the airframe, prop and engine yesterday. All good experience in preparation for future aircraft purchase and ownership. This is how the local DPE starts the checkride by opening with oral exam on aircraft maintenance and then onward to cross country oral part. Quote
Marauder Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 So, I'm watching a YouTube video from this young man that goes by MrAviation101 and he is flying into San Marcos and I hear a familiar Mooney N number on the video. Any guess which number? Looks like it got sold again. https://youtu.be/DQ3wG_-yIk8 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Houman Posted March 31, 2015 Report Posted March 31, 2015 In the description of the engine it says TSIO-360-LB Turbocharged, I tought the Rocket modification done by RocketEngineering used TSIO520-NB for this modification, am I not reading this right ??? No where on the actual Ebay listing does it say Rocket... So could it be the 231 Turbocharged, but not from RocketEngineering... Just wondering, because at that price, it would be near what I paid for 50% of my Rocket, mind you mine had 150h use SMOH. Thanks ! Quote
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