exM20K Posted Saturday at 09:17 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:17 PM https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/502469 https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N242RE -dan 6 Quote
mike_elliott Posted Saturday at 09:35 PM Report Posted Saturday at 09:35 PM So terribly sad. If anybody knows a surviving spouse contact info, please let me know. I have a text into Don Maxwell to see what he might know. 1 Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM Oh, no! That's not terribly far from here. Weather doesn't seem particularly bad, either--"easy" ILS conditions, and the FlightAware track looks normal right up until it disappears. --Up. Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Report Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM I just listened to the CTAF for KSRB via LiveATC and heard him make two completely routine calls, first an 11-mile final straight in for 4 and then a 3-mile final straight in for 4. And then...nothing more. --Up. 1 Quote
exM20K Posted Sunday at 12:26 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 12:26 AM 2 hours ago, Jeff Uphoff said: I just listened to the CTAF for KSRB via LiveATC and heard him make two completely routine calls, first an 11-mile final straight in for 4 and then a 3-mile final straight in for 4. And then...nothing more. --Up. It is a very strange one. The plane flew often, not a new owner, not terrible weather, and relatively clear ground and low terrain on the approach. Very sad. Quote
Fly Boomer Posted Sunday at 12:29 AM Report Posted Sunday at 12:29 AM 2 minutes ago, exM20K said: It is a very strange one. The plane flew often, not a new owner, not terrible weather, and relatively clear ground and low terrain on the approach. Very sad. Fuel starvation? Quote
hubcap Posted Sunday at 02:38 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:38 AM The Flight Aware data looks like the plane’s groundspeed was really slow before it ended. Quote
Schllc Posted Sunday at 02:47 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:47 AM Sad and unusual indeed. Vigilance must be a mantra… Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Sunday at 02:51 AM Report Posted Sunday at 02:51 AM 11 minutes ago, hubcap said: The Flight Aware data looks like the plane’s groundspeed was really slow before it ended. Yeah, I noticed that. Looks like landing speed rather than IFR approach speed. There was a bit of headwind, but not that much, it didn’t appear. —Up. Quote
Mooney in Oz Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM Report Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM 6 hours ago, Jeff Uphoff said: I just listened to the CTAF for KSRB via LiveATC and heard him make two completely routine calls, first an 11-mile final straight in for 4 and then a 3-mile final straight in for 4. And then...nothing more. --Up. From the CTAF recording, we’re you able to tell if there was another aircraft in front or some other reason he may have been slowing? Quote
1980Mooney Posted Sunday at 07:04 AM Report Posted Sunday at 07:04 AM 2 hours ago, Mooney in Oz said: From the CTAF recording, we’re you able to tell if there was another aircraft in front or some other reason he may have been slowing? From ADSB-Exchange playback, no other aircraft show up in the vicinity of KSRB while N242RE is approaching. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2025-04-26-16:47&lat=36.020&lon=-85.587&zoom=12.4 Also if you look at FlightAware arrivals and departures at Upper Cumberland Rgnl Airport (Sparta, TN) SRB on April 26 around 11:47 AM CDT, there is no activity at the airport. https://www.flightaware.com/live/airport/KSRB/arrivals https://www.flightaware.com/live/airport/KSRB/departures 1 Quote
wiguy Posted Sunday at 11:44 AM Report Posted Sunday at 11:44 AM There was mention from a ground witness of ‘the engine cutting off then on’? If so, sounds a little like a fuel issue. Quote
dkkim73 Posted Sunday at 11:48 AM Report Posted Sunday at 11:48 AM I wondered if he had an in flight issue mandating a descent, with distraction maybe causing a trim stall. NB this is of course all speculation. Very sad, overall. (Edit: fixed autocorrect, mandating not managing) Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM Report Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM 7 hours ago, Mooney in Oz said: From the CTAF recording, we’re you able to tell if there was another aircraft in front or some other reason he may have been slowing? At the very beginning of the half-hour block of audio, there's a plane announcing it will shoot the published miss, and then it departed the area. Nothing for 10+ minutes, then this plane made its 11 and 3 mile calls in the middle of the block, and then nothing more for the remainder. Sounded quiet there. --Up. 1 Quote
anthonydesmet Posted Sunday at 12:45 PM Report Posted Sunday at 12:45 PM I think on flight aware he went from Tn. to Al. earlier that morning then quick turn back to Tn. If I read it correctly. Assume maybe conservative 3 hour engine on time with grnd/taxi at both ends. Still should be enough for that day assuming he was full fuel at the beginning…..but the speed before impact seems like he might have been trying to capture best glide…..sad and strange for sure. Quote
dkkim73 Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM Report Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM 17 minutes ago, anthonydesmet said: Still should be enough for that day assuming he was full fuel at the beginning…. Full fuel in the Acclaim doesn't leave enough weight for 2 pax unless they are small. 2 Quote
croissant Posted Sunday at 01:08 PM Report Posted Sunday at 01:08 PM I am a friend of the pilot. He was based out of KSRP. His wife is surrounded by her family and his. She loved this man more than anything in life. It is truly devastating. The flight data and the picture of the crash site indicate a very steep nose-dive, my guess is loss of pitch control. no way to recover from that at 400 AGL. Could be a medical event, but I doubt it. His favorite song was Born in the USA. Feel free to blast it to 11 today. 8 Quote
dkkim73 Posted Sunday at 02:10 PM Report Posted Sunday at 02:10 PM 1 hour ago, croissant said: His favorite song was Born in the USA. Feel free to blast it to 11 today. I will actually do that. I'm sorry for your loss, and theirs. RIP Quote
Nico1 Posted Sunday at 04:10 PM Report Posted Sunday at 04:10 PM 13 hours ago, hubcap said: The Flight Aware data looks like the plane’s groundspeed was really slow before it ended. Checking previous landing that day, approach speeds were quite similar and just as slow about 1.5nm from threshold. Of course ADSB is ground speed so without wind aloft info hard to tell actual airspeed. 4 hours ago, wiguy said: There was mention from a ground witness of ‘the engine cutting off then on’? If so, sounds a little like a fuel issue. Going from near idle to full throttle can sound like that, esp if pushing the throttle abruptly with the governor's lag in adjusting the surge in RPM. 2 hours ago, croissant said: I am a friend of the pilot. He was based out of KSRP. His wife is surrounded by her family and his. She loved this man more than anything in life. It is truly devastating. The flight data and the picture of the crash site indicate a very steep nose-dive, my guess is loss of pitch control. no way to recover from that at 400 AGL. Could be a medical event, but I doubt it. His favorite song was Born in the USA. Feel free to blast it to 11 today. Very sorry for your loss, and their families. Very sad. Quote
croissant Posted Sunday at 09:49 PM Report Posted Sunday at 09:49 PM 5 hours ago, Nico1 said: Checking previous landing that day, approach speeds were quite similar and just as slow about 1.5nm from threshold. Of course ADSB is ground speed so without wind aloft info hard to tell actual airspeed. Going from near idle to full throttle can sound like that, esp if pushing the throttle abruptly with the governor's lag in adjusting the surge in RPM. Very sorry for your loss, and their families. Very sad. There was fuel leaking at the crash site, so he didn't run out of fuel. Mechanical failure? that leads to a stall? I don't have enough experience to even guess... Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Monday at 01:08 AM Report Posted Monday at 01:08 AM 15 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said: Wow, is it just me, or is there not anything visible that looks like a typical forced-landing roll/slide? It's like...he came straight down? --Up. Quote
redbaron1982 Posted Monday at 01:12 AM Report Posted Monday at 01:12 AM (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jeff Uphoff said: Wow, is it just me, or is there not anything visible that looks like a typical forced-landing roll/slide? It's like...he came straight down? --Up. It looks like there is a strip of disturbed grass right before the aiplane's final position, as if it landing in the clear between the two tree lines, and then it fall into that ditch or small stream/bayou. EDIT: giving it a second thought it doesn't make sense that the lighter patch of grass before the airplane is the result of a force landing, the distance between the two tree lines doesn't seem large enough to make a force landing without clipping the first's line trees. Very tragic, it looks like a very experienced pilot, with a new (in GA terms) and very well-equipped airplane. Edited Monday at 01:19 AM by redbaron1982 Quote
Jeff Uphoff Posted Monday at 01:19 AM Report Posted Monday at 01:19 AM 6 minutes ago, redbaron1982 said: It looks like there is a strip of disturbed grass right before the aiplane's final position, as if it landing in the clear between the two tree lines, and then it fall into that ditch or small stream/bayou. Very tragic, it looks like a very experienced pilot, with a new (in GA terms) and very well-equipped airplane. Ah, I see that now. Damn. --Up. Quote
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