PeteMc Posted December 4, 2023 Report Posted December 4, 2023 Anyone have any Hangar Rental Agreements they wouldn't mind sharing? I tried a few different searches, but nothing came up that referenced an actual lease. (Even tried @Fly Boomer's trick with "site:mooneyspace.com xxx" but no luck. I'm looking for examples because it looks like I've got a hangar to rent and a standard Apt/Home rental agreement is probably not the best guideline. Eventually I'll run it by a local lawyer, just don't see the need to pay them to do the research. I'd rather go in with a draft for them to okay or make changes to. And I don't know if anyone else does this, but I'd like to include that the primary use of the hangar is for aviation. I've heard way too many stories about trying to find hangars when there are often a number on the airport that are full of non aviation storage. Even people that may have a non flyable plane or parts of a plane shoved in the corner, but they never have any intent on flying, but they have a hangar for storage. I'm also *assuming* they are either month to month or 1 year agreements (again, rental, not leased from the airport, FBO, etc.). But maybe a lot are longer term Leases, which might bring into play a different set of local laws. (Again the lawyer...)
Tim-37419 Posted December 4, 2023 Report Posted December 4, 2023 My airport recently asked everyone for a copy of their current annual and if you didn’t have one you had 90 days to get it. I’m not sure how this impacted the home builders, we have a strong EAA presence. I’ve heard if you are taking federal funds for your airport, the FAA has started cracking down on the landscapers, the auto buffs, plane parts collectors and the blow up bouncie house people who I have seen taking up hanger space. Ill look for my agreement and pm it to you.
PeteMc Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Posted December 4, 2023 Not a bad thing to put in "on request" of the tenant. Don't know that I want to just add that they send me a copy every time. But if things get questionable then it gives me an option to check, which might show my suspicions are correct. And there could be situations, like an A&P doing work in the hangar without a plane of their own. Still aviation, but no "Annual" they would have to show. Guess they could flood me and send a copy of every annual they did for all the planes!
Mac80 Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 I have my plane insurance broker list the hangar owners as additionally insured which makes the the owners happy and my insurer just needs the name of owner and their address with no additional costs so far to my policy. 1
PeteMc Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Posted December 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Mac80 said: I have my plane insurance broker list the hangar owners as additionally insured Yes, that's a given. Should have mentioned it was on the list.
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, PeteMc said: Anyone have any Hangar Rental Agreements they wouldn't mind sharing? I tried a few different searches, but nothing came up that referenced an actual lease. (Even tried @Fly Boomer's trick with "site:mooneyspace.com xxx" but no luck. I'm looking for examples because it looks like I've got a hangar to rent and a standard Apt/Home rental agreement is probably not the best guideline. Eventually I'll run it by a local lawyer, just don't see the need to pay them to do the research. I'd rather go in with a draft for them to okay or make changes to. And I don't know if anyone else does this, but I'd like to include that the primary use of the hangar is for aviation. I've heard way too many stories about trying to find hangars when there are often a number on the airport that are full of non aviation storage. Even people that may have a non flyable plane or parts of a plane shoved in the corner, but they never have any intent on flying, but they have a hangar for storage. I'm also *assuming* they are either month to month or 1 year agreements (again, rental, not leased from the airport, FBO, etc.). But maybe a lot are longer term Leases, which might bring into play a different set of local laws. (Again the lawyer...) Really? I just came up with 24 different leases on the first page of the search.
PeteMc Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 1980Mooney said: Really? I just came up with 24 different leases on the first page of the search. Okay... I did not try "Hangar" or "Hangar Rental" because they brought up too many posts about getting a hangar, etc. I tried multiple "Rental Agreement" "Lease" "Hangar Rental Document" and I forget what else I tried, but multiple variations that brought up a lot of stuff that was not helpful. So what exactly did you search for and is it that you instantly found 24 different leases or that out of the 300 search items you found 24 different leases? And thanks for finding the links.... Ummm.... But where are they????? ADDED: Oops!!! Okay, my bad. Read your message because it came up as a notification.... The second one with all the links I hadn't seen yet. (graveling in the corner....) Edited December 5, 2023 by PeteMc
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 The first article highlights some of the issues. https://shackelford.law/news-aviation/aircraft-hangar-lease-what-can-a-tenant-expect/ Here are some templates - they are customizable with a PDF app. There are some free ones online like Candy PDF to Word. The ones for Georgetown, Spanish Fork and Sweetwater have a lot more boilerplate. https://crp.trb.org/acrpwebresource6/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2018/02/TEMPLATE-Hangar-Rental-Agreement.docx https://www.dot.ga.gov/InvestSmart/Aviation/Forms/SampleLandLeaseforHanger.pdf https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/avn/model_lease_agreement.doc T-Hangar-Lease-Agreement.pdf (flywenatchee.com) Microsoft Word - Updated Privately Owned Hangar Lease Agreement (ventura.org) 3.7.14-City-of-Georgetown-Airport-Ground-Lease.pdf Hangar Ground Lease Agreement (spanishfork.org) https://sweetwaterfbo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Aeronautical-Use-Hangar-Lease-2019-Form-Fill-REVISED.pdf
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, PeteMc said: Okay... I did not try "Hangar" or "Hangar Rental" because they brought up too many posts about getting a hangar, etc. I tried multiple "Rental Agreement" "Lease" "Hangar Rental Document" and I forget what else I tried, but multiple variations that brought up a lot of stuff that was not helpful. So what exactly did you search for and is it that you instantly found 24 different leases or that out of the 300 search items you found 24 different leases? And thanks for finding the links.... Ummm.... But where are they????? attached now
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 @PeteMc airplane hangar rental agreement - Google Search Literally every municipal airport Hangar Agreement in the US will appear. Here is one from EAA chapters.eaa.org/eaa55/-/media/5a6f918190404eb19ea7117e6eaf8450.ashx
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 @PeteMc This one downloads into Word model_lease_agreement.doc (live.com)
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 @PeteMc This one too into Word when downloaded TEMPLATE-Hangar-Rental-Agreement.docx (live.com)
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 @PeteMc For reference hangar-planning.pdf (aopa.org) untitled (aopa.org) For the record: Ground control - AOPA UNDERSTAND YOUR GROUND LEASE
1980Mooney Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 In the not too distant future AI Chatbots will do this for all of us - and you will not need a lawyer.
midlifeflyer Posted December 5, 2023 Report Posted December 5, 2023 5 hours ago, 1980Mooney said: In the not too distant future AI Chatbots will do this for all of us - and you will not need a lawyer. Gotta be better than some of the things I’ve seen when non-lawyers work with forms they find on the Internet. 1
MikeOH Posted December 18, 2023 Report Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 9:27 PM, 1980Mooney said: In the not too distant future AI Chatbots will do this for all of us - and you will not need a lawyer. Yeah, and I'm certain that AI Chatbot will provide your courtroom legal defense for free when the lease they wrote gets you sued! 1
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