LED Recognition Lights

[KurtWhite]

On 6/4/2023 at 8:10 AM, rbp said:

Finally got these installed. turned them on approach back to linden. hope someone saw them!

Now that you have had them for a while, how do you like them?  No issues?  I was thinking about ordering them for my 252 as I like the looks of them and I often fly in airspace with lots of student traffic and I need all the lights I can get. 

[RoundTwo]

18 minutes ago, KurtWhite said:

Now that you have had them for a while, how do you like them?  No issues?  I was thinking about ordering them for my 252 as I like the looks of them and I often fly in airspace with lots of student traffic and I need all the lights I can get. 

I love mine. I no longer have to be concerned with melting lenses. Pictures don’t do them justice. They’re much brighter than what comes across in photos. Well worth the expense. 
Chuck

[OSUAV8TER]

@KurtWhite just let me know when you are ready for a pair! I have them on the shelf ready to go.

James

[amillet]

Went out to get night current.  All exterior lights are LEDs except red belly beacon 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Derek]

Just had the recogs done to my 201. Glad to scratch that checklist item off my after-landing!

[laytonl]

In the process of installing the Whelen LED strobe and Recognition lights now.  Did the tail strobe today.  Simple install.  Lee

[Pinecone]

The hard part is running a wire to use the tail light (my plane as the back of the wingtip lights) and for syncing the strobes.

[Ed de C.]

Good afternoon folks - I received two of these replacement recognition lights yesterday for my Ovation and am wondering how to install them.  

The old lights attached to the wing tip structure with two screws (pictures show this clearly).  The replacement lights have no screw mounts but otherwise will fit fine.  Do we just put a dab of adhesive to fix the light to the wingtip? Some other method?  The light should be removable down the road.

Whelen says it's a minor alteration requiring logbook entry.  I'm allowed to do that myself, right?

Thanks for your comments.

Ed

[LANCECASPER]

7 hours ago, Ed de C. said:

Good afternoon folks - I received two of these replacement recognition lights yesterday for my Ovation and am wondering how to install them.  
The old lights attached to the wing tip structure with two screws (pictures show this clearly).  The replacement lights have no screw mounts but otherwise will fit fine.  Do we just put a dab of adhesive to fix the light to the wingtip? Some other method?  The light should be removable down the road.
Whelen says it's a minor alteration requiring logbook entry.  I'm allowed to do that myself, right?
Thanks for your comments.
Ed

It looks like you have them 90 degrees off (vertically instead of horizontally). 

The legal answer is an owner can't do any alteration, minor or major. A minor alteration just requires a logbook entry by an A & P, not a form 337, which is required for a Major alteration.

[Hank]

39 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said:

The legal answer is an owner can't do any alteration, minor or major. A minor alteration just requires a logbook entry by an A & P, not a form 337, which is required for a Major alteration.

An owner can do anything to their own aircraft "under supervision of an A&P."

For details of what "supervision" means, talk to the mechanic you will work with on a particular job, and realize that each job has different supervision requirements. There are also times / tasks for which this will not be permitted. 

[Ed de C.]

Thanks Lance - Regarding the orientation, vertical fits nicely while horizontal has a piece of the light housing protruding in front of the Nav light.  Either way, my question remains how to attach the light housing to the wing tip shelf.  The light housing has no obvious attaching mechanism (no screw holes, no clips or latches, etc.).  

I assume my 2008 Ovation wing tip geometry is the same as all other Ovations and Bravos that had factory recognition lights.  What did you guys do to retrofit?

[RoundTwo]

57 minutes ago, Ed de C. said:

Thanks Lance - Regarding the orientation, vertical fits nicely while horizontal has a piece of the light housing protruding in front of the Nav light.  Either way, my question remains how to attach the light housing to the wing tip shelf.  The light housing has no obvious attaching mechanism (no screw holes, no clips or latches, etc.).  

I assume my 2008 Ovation wing tip geometry is the same as all other Ovations and Bravos that had factory recognition lights.  What did you guys do to retrofit?

The lights are meant to be attached with a spring clip that held in the old Whelen recog lights. If your installation didn’t still have those clips, maybe someone here knows where they can be procured. No screws are necessary to install the lights. 

[PT20J]

@LANCECASPER's picture appears to be from the Whelen website. The wingtip is different than @Ed de C.'s.

I looked in the M20R & S IPC and it shows a wingtip like the Whelen picture. I don't know why this one is different. Aftermarket replacement maybe? Maybe another Ovation owner knows. That bracket on the original recognition light isn't the Mooney standard mounting. Someone glued a bracket to the light and attached the lamp with screws. Mooney used a spring clip on the back of the bulb to retain the lamp. 

Anyway, it's pretty clear that the recognition light will need to be mounted vertically because it cannot shield the nav light and be legal. It's fortunate that it fits because it would not fit vertically in the standard wingtip.

 

[gahoward59]

Question for the M20M owners who have installed the WAT LED recognition lights.  Mine are on order from Gallagher, should arrive in a couple of days.  How are you folks making the wire terminations?  Are you removing the quick connectors for the old lights and either soldering the wires or using crimp connectors or are you reusing the quick connectors?   My A&P (Brian Kendrick) is going to help me with the change out but he gave me the option of how to connect.  Any advice is appreciated.

[OSUAV8TER]

The price on these LED recognition lights are going up on October 20th so get it while you can! 

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-28V-Recognition-Light_p_337.html <--  28V version

https://www.gallagheraviationllc.com/WAT-Mooney-14V-Recognition-Light_p_140.html <-- 14V version

[PT20J]

Should be the same as my M20J. There was lots of extra wire so I just used crimp butt splices. Easy and quick to install. I don't expect to ever have to replace the LED lights, but there's plenty of wire there if I do.