N201MKTurbo Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 But you landed on the “R” not the numbers! Quote
Pinecone Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 Isn’t the R part of the “numbers”?? Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 I will have to look that up in the FAR/AIM.... The runway number is the whole number nearest one‐tenth the magnetic azimuth of the centerline of the runway, measured clockwise from the magnetic north. The letters, differentiate between left (L), right (R), or center (C) parallel runways, as applicable: Nope, He landed on the letters.... 2 Quote
Hank Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said: I will have to look that up in the FAR/AIM.... The runway number is the whole number nearest one‐tenth the magnetic azimuth of the centerline of the runway, measured clockwise from the magnetic north. The letters, differentiate between left (L), right (R), or center (C) parallel runways, as applicable: So you're saying that "22" is the runway number, even though there are two of them? I always thought one was "22L" and the other was "22R." Yes, I've landed on one of three runways, good old "20C" at BNA. Quote
rbp Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 unless you're doing a no-hydraulics or insufficient-power-to-hover run-on or a full down auto, there's no "landing" in a heli. there's only an approach to a hover and a set-down. see, I can be pedantic too! Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 6, 2023 Report Posted January 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, Hank said: So you're saying that "22" is the runway number, even though there are two of them? I always thought one was "22L" and the other was "22R." Yes, I've landed on one of three runways, good old "20C" at BNA. Those aren't my words, they came from the AIM. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted January 7, 2023 Author Report Posted January 7, 2023 Airplane pilots get 100’ for commercial short field. Helicopter pilots pts is 2 feet. Just saying. …. Quote
1964-M20E Posted January 7, 2023 Report Posted January 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Hank said: So you're saying that "22" is the runway number, even though there are two of them? I always thought one was "22L" and the other was "22R." Yes, I've landed on one of three runways, good old "20C" at BNA. No by landing there, he is just stating the he is flying a Robinson 22. 1 Quote
midlifeflyer Posted January 7, 2023 Report Posted January 7, 2023 17 hours ago, rbp said: unless you're doing a no-hydraulics or insufficient-power-to-hover run-on or a full down auto, there's no "landing" in a heli. there's only an approach to a hover and a set-down. see, I can be pedantic too! So, when Tower says, "cleared to land," do you say, "unable"? Quote
rbp Posted January 7, 2023 Report Posted January 7, 2023 Being cleared to land doesn’t mean you’re required to! Quote
rbp Posted January 7, 2023 Report Posted January 7, 2023 20 hours ago, RobertGary1 said: Airplane pilots get 100’ for commercial short field. Helicopter pilots pts is 2 feet. Just saying. …. Actually the PTS for an autorotation is 100’ for private and 50’ for commercial. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 8, 2023 Report Posted January 8, 2023 I’ve only done two autorotations, I’m pretty sure I was closer than 50 feet to where I was told to aim for. One was from moving forward the other was from a hover. Those are kind of sporty. Quote
Pinecone Posted January 8, 2023 Report Posted January 8, 2023 Try one from the top of the shaded area. That is the area where the combination of speed and altitude prevent a successful auto. IIRC for the R-22 it was 200 feet AGL in a hover. You REALLY have to get the nose done to get the airspeed to arrest the sink at the end. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinecone said: Try one from the top of the shaded area. That is the area where the combination of speed and altitude prevent a successful auto. IIRC for the R-22 it was 200 feet AGL in a hover. You REALLY have to get the nose done to get the airspeed to arrest the sink at the end. There is never a time you need to do an auto from a hover other than the 4' hover. Otherwise we do 500' for straight in and 800' for 180's.. At least private through CFI. The biggest issue is that if there is more headwind than you though there isn't much you can do to stretch it. The "50'" tolerance is 360 degrees so its basically 100'. -Robert -Robert Quote
rbp Posted January 8, 2023 Report Posted January 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, RobertGary1 said: There is never a time you need to do an auto from a hover other than the 4' hover. Otherwise we do 500' for straight in and 800' for 180's.. At least private through CFI. The biggest issue is that if there is more headwind than you though there isn't much you can do to stretch it. The "50'" tolerance is 360 degrees so its basically 100'. -Robert -Robert 90 knots /90% in the r44 to stretch the glide Quote
RobertGary1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Posted January 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, rbp said: 90 knots /90% in the r44 to stretch the glide Ok. In the 22 it says only above 500’. Quote
Pinecone Posted January 8, 2023 Report Posted January 8, 2023 I did one because I asked to do one to see what it was like. We did pad the altitude by a bit. Just looked it up, hover is 400 feet, we probably did 450 (it was a long time ago). Quote
rbp Posted January 8, 2023 Report Posted January 8, 2023 18 hours ago, RobertGary1 said: Ok. In the 22 it says only above 500’. I took the RHS course with Tim. he has a great essay on autos that covers this https://www.timtuckershelicopterworld.com/my-take-on-autorotations Quote
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