201er Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 In the February 2012 issue of Flying magazine, there is an article called "Slippery Slope" about a 400 hour VFR NJ pilot who took off into 300' overcast and came down in pieces. Interesting article and definitely something to think about including the slippery slopes of pilot attitude it brings up. The reason I'm posting here is because they had a picture of what appears to be a Mooney accompanying the article without a caption. I was wondering if anyone knows it it was a Mooney involved in this accident that the article discusses? Quote
MARZ Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 I read that as well - google search turned this up http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20091114X32349&ntsbno=ERA10FA062&akey=1 a Piper PA-28R-200 Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Nevermind the Mooney thing....how did he last 10 minutes in it? Quote
201er Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Posted January 24, 2012 Why did they put a picture of a Mooney on a Piper accident!? Or am I just seeing it wrong? Quote
KSMooniac Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 I thought it was a Mooney too from the pic....but the article never mentioned anything. Â In-flight breakups of Mooneys are extremely rare, and I had not heard of one like that mentioned in the column and am not surprised it was a Piper instead of a Mooney. Quote
Shadrach Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Quote: 201er Why did they put a picture of a Mooney on a Piper accident!? Or am I just seeing it wrong? Quote
kortopates Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 I didn't read the Flying mag article but did read the NTSB report. Its hard to imagine a more obvious example of anti-authority/arrogance based on the statemenets made by the pilot's wife's and other reported details. But there is  Last night I attended the latest AOPA Air Safety Institute seminar that came to my local neigborhood. Their most classic example of anti-authority from 2009 that they discussed was documented in this report: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20090131X25145&key=1 The differences being the Seneca pilot took off in VMC heading for an area of widespread IMC while being 300+ lbs over weight and 3.4" beyond the aft CG limit and without a wx breifing - after witnesses advised him to re-do his weight and balance calculations and get a wx briefing. Result: 6 fatalities. Just seems criminal when it involves innocent passengers. Quote
Hank Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Quote: N4352H Nevermind the Mooney thing....how did he last 10 minutes in it? Quote
Hank Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Quote: kortopates Their most classic example of anti-authority from 2009 that they discussed was documented in this report: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20090131X25145&key=1 The differences being the Seneca pilot took off in VMC heading for an area of widespread IMC while being 300+ lbs over weight and 3.4" beyond the aft CG limit and without a wx breifing - after witnesses advised him to re-do his weight and balance calculations and get a wx briefing. Result: 6 fatalities. Just seems criminal when it involves innocent passengers. Quote
201er Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Posted January 24, 2012 Let me just mention for those who don't get the magazine that the NTSB report turns out to be as descriptive if not more than the article which just sumaraized it. The conclusions from reading the factual are no weaker than reading it broken down for you in the magazine. Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 24, 2012 Report Posted January 24, 2012 Quote: Hank Ten minutes is surprising to me, but that's apparently what the accident statistics boil down to. Looking at the track from his GPS, it was an interesting ride, tight 180's followed by tighter 360's in the other direction. Quote
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