G5 Version 8.0 w/ Smart Glide support

[201Mooniac]

It was released and includes:

Changes made from version 7.30 to 8.00:

• Added support for Smart Glide
• Added ability to simultaneously arm flight director VNAV along with GP or GS mode
• Added additional data to SD card flight data logging
• Added notification of missing/undetected battery
• Added menu option to diagnostic page to access AFCS diagnostic log
• Added support for LP+V CDI scale
• Improved AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube
• Adjusted appearance of dual cue flight director
• General improvements to system operation
• Includes GMC 507 software version 3.10
• Includes GSA 28 software version 4.90/2.20
• Includes GMU 11 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 13 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 29B software version 3.40
• Includes GAD 29D software version 2.10

[hammdo]

Humm, I'll need to ck my G5s...

-Don

[donkaye]

Thanks, Adam.  Finally!  I've been waiting since Smart Glide first came out.  It gets updated tomorrow morning.

[201Mooniac]

1 hour ago, donkaye said:

Thanks, Adam.  Finally!  I've been waiting since Smart Glide first came out.  It gets updated tomorrow morning.

Don, I'm surprised you couldn't get it done today

[PT20J]

\G3X Version 9.0 is also released including Smart Glide. 

Changes made from version 8.64 to 9.00:

• Add support for Smart Glide
• Add Emergency page and optional EMERG button in data bar
• Add ability to simultaneously arm flight director VNAV along with GP or GS mode
• Add support for FIS-B Center Weather Advisories and Graphical AIRMET
• Add display of GTN Xi series navigator VNAV TOD/BOD positions on map
• Add fuel flow/quantity labels to EFIS/Airdata ARINC 429 output format
• Add support for GTX 3x5D diversity transponders
• Add ability to schedule fuel tank reminder based on fuel quantity used
• Add support for displaying fuel quantity and flow values in units of lbs or kg
• Add ability to enable/disable fuel calculator automatic reset of fuel-used quantity in normal mode
• Add ability to record engine cycles
• Add ability to touch PFD AOA field to temporarily mute audio alert
• Add support for LP+V CDI scale
• Add display of density altitude on PFD when on the ground
• Add CAS message to indicate ADS-B transmit inhibited by pilot
• Add CAS messages to indicate ESP inhibited
• Add menu option to autopilot config page to access AFCS diagnostic log
• Add additional data field options
• Improve map display of TFR, NOTAM, and obstacle data
• Improve AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube
• Improve heading display when true direction is selected
• Improve altitude display when adjusting baro setting or below sea level
• Improve synthetic vision Pathways display
• Improve data log file processing
• Improve audio alerting
• Improve COM radio data processing
• Improve transponder interface
• Improve functionality of GSU 25 backup RS-232 connection
• Improve ARINC 429 label output
• Improve GNX 375 GPS data processing
• Improve Connext data processing
• Change ESP to inhibit protection when a miscompare is detected
• Adjust appearance of dual cue flight director
• Correct display of winds aloft magnitude for FIS-B sources
• General improvements to system operation
• Includes update to G5 software version 8.00
• Includes update to GAD13 software version 2.10
• Includes update to GAD27 software version 2.70
• Includes update to GAD29 software version 3.40
• Includes update to GAD29C/D software version 2.10
• Includes update to GAD29C/D boot block software version 2.00
• Includes update to GDL5x software version 2.15
• Includes update to GEA24 software version 3.90
• Includes update to GMA245 software version 2.80
• Includes update to GMC507 software version 3.10
• Includes update to GMU11 software version 2.10
• Includes update to GPS20A GPS software version 2.10
• Includes updates to GSA28 software version 4.90/2.20
• Includes update to GSU25/B software version 4.30
• Includes update to GSU25C/D software version 2.70
• Includes update to GSU73 software version 3.80
• Includes update to GSU73 IGRF database version 1.04 (Base Year 2020)
• Includes update to timezone database version 28.00
• Includes G5 boot block software version 2.20
• Includes GAD13 boot block software version 2.00
• Includes GAD27 boot block software version 2.30
• Includes GAD29 boot block software version 3.10
• Includes GDL39 software version 4.91
• Includes GEA24 boot block software version 2.20
• Includes GI260 software version 2.80
• Includes GI260 boot block software version 2.20
• Includes GMA245 audio software version 2.20
• Includes GMA245 Bluetooth software version 2.00
• Includes GMA245 boot block software version 2.30
• Includes GMC507 boot block software version 2.30
• Includes GMU11 boot block software version 2.00
• Includes GPS20A software version 2.40
• Includes GPS20A boot block software version 2.10
• Includes GSA28 boot block software version 2.20/2.10
• Includes GSU25/B boot block software version 2.20
• Includes GSU25C/D boot block software version 2.00
• Includes GTR20/200 software version 3.30
• Includes GTR20/200 boot block software version 2.30

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[PT20J]

2 hours ago, donkaye said:

Thanks, Adam.  Finally!  I've been waiting since Smart Glide first came out.  It gets updated tomorrow morning.

Don, I don't remember if you upgraded to GTN Xi's but 20.23 is released for those.

[donkaye]

1 hour ago, 201Mooniac said:

Don, I'm surprised you couldn't get it done today

I was about to jump up and go to the airport, then noticed it was 3:00 and decided I didn't want to fight the long line of traffic to get onto 280 when I could get the same result tomorrow morning and go fly and try it out .

[Ragsf15e]

So is this part the same as the gi-275 update preventing a red x with blocked pitot?  I don’t have a gtn, so no smart glide, I’m wondering if I should do the update.  Usually I do all updates, but it’s been working perfectly….

• Improved AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube

[toto]

6 hours ago, 201Mooniac said:

It was released and includes:

Changes made from version 7.30 to 8.00:

• Added support for Smart Glide
• Added ability to simultaneously arm flight director VNAV along with GP or GS mode
• Added additional data to SD card flight data logging
• Added notification of missing/undetected battery
• Added menu option to diagnostic page to access AFCS diagnostic log
• Added support for LP+V CDI scale
• Improved AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube
• Adjusted appearance of dual cue flight director
• General improvements to system operation
• Includes GMC 507 software version 3.10
• Includes GSA 28 software version 4.90/2.20
• Includes GMU 11 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 13 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 29B software version 3.40
• Includes GAD 29D software version 2.10

What's the practical effect of this for a G5 owner? You still need the GTN Xi with Smart Glide?

[PT20J]

10 hours ago, toto said:

What's the practical effect of this for a G5 owner? You still need the GTN Xi with Smart Glide?

Yes. Smart Glide is primarily a GTN Xi fearure.

[PT20J]

10 hours ago, Ragsf15e said:

So is this part the same as the gi-275 update preventing a red x with blocked pitot?  I don’t have a gtn, so no smart glide, I’m wondering if I should do the update.  Usually I do all updates, but it’s been working perfectly….

• Improved AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube

I saw that too. Perhaps the GI 275 and GSU 25D use the same ADAHRS design. In some Garmin manual (can’t remember which one) Garmin did state that the G5 and GSU 25D use a different design.

[rbp]

1 hour ago, PT20J said:

Smart Glide is primarily a GTN Xi fearure

is this an option ($$$)?

[FlyinAggie14]

I went flying this morning and got an AHRS IGRF data out of date message on my G3X. Looks like the IGRF data for the G3X update for the new magnetic field model requires the 9.0 update per the note on the bottom of  Garmin Support Page

Note: For G3X Touch systems, the system will receive the 2020 IGRF file with a G3X Touch software update to software version 9.00

Got my appointment scheduled for Monday afternoon to update all my avionics, excited to add the smart glide features as I had not updated the 650xi yet!  

[PT20J]

1 hour ago, rbp said:

is this an option ($$$)?

If you have o GTN Xi, the software is free. The avionics shop may charge their time for installation.

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[201Steve]

I have an Xi navigator, Dual G5's, and GFC500. What else, besides this software update do I need? Just have a panel mounted smart glide button installed?

[FlyinAggie14]

10 minutes ago, 201Steve said:

I have an Xi navigator, Dual G5's, and GFC500. What else, besides this software update do I need? Just have a panel mounted smart glide button installed?

You just need a Xi navigator with the upgraded software, and a flight display (G3X, G5, G275, G500/600 ect) with the correct software updates. The updates mentioned above added G5s and G3Xs to the list of approved flight displays.  The panel mounted button is an option but not required.  Without it you can activate smart glide by holding the Direct to button for 2 seconds or the emergency touch button in the menu. 

Edited January 12, 2022 by FlyinAggie14

[rbp]

51 minutes ago, FlyinAggie14 said:

The panel mounted button is an option but not required.  Without it you can activate smart glide by holding the Direct to button for 2 seconds or the emergency touch button in the menu

i have to say this feature is REALLY F******** AMAZING

[PT20J]

All the Garmin equipment for my panel was ordered in June for an installation beginning in August. Everything was available but the Smart Glide buttons. I just checked today and Garmin is still telling dealers they are five weeks out. It isn’t necessary, of course, but I started out as a hardware engineer and have always disliked the tricks software engineers use when they run out of buttons (hold it down vs press, push multiple buttons in a sequence, push combinations of buttons simultaneously, push the same button multiple times, etc.) It’s right up there with my distaste for multi-level and multi-page menus. But, that’s just me . 

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[rbp]

41 minutes ago, PT20J said:

(hold it down vs press, push multiple buttons in a sequence, push combinations of buttons simultaneously, push the same button multiple times, etc.)

so, you have a Motorola StarTac?

[PT20J]

19 minutes ago, rbp said:

so, you have a Motorola StarTac?

No, an iPhone which I spend a of time cursing at. But I have finally trained myself to back all the way out of the phone app instead of just hanging up like a normal person to avoid butt dials 

[EricJ]

On 1/11/2022 at 4:01 PM, 201Mooniac said:

It was released and includes:

Changes made from version 7.30 to 8.00:

• Added support for Smart Glide
• Added ability to simultaneously arm flight director VNAV along with GP or GS mode
• Added additional data to SD card flight data logging
• Added notification of missing/undetected battery
• Added menu option to diagnostic page to access AFCS diagnostic log
• Added support for LP+V CDI scale
• Improved AFCS operation with blocked pitot tube
• Adjusted appearance of dual cue flight director
• General improvements to system operation
• Includes GMC 507 software version 3.10
• Includes GSA 28 software version 4.90/2.20
• Includes GMU 11 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 13 software version 2.10
• Includes GAD 29B software version 3.40
• Includes GAD 29D software version 2.10

Thanks for mentioning this.   I was going to the hangar today, anyway, so I d/l'ed it and installed it in both G5s.    Went fine.

[PJClark]

8 hours ago, FlyinAggie14 said:

I went flying this morning and got an AHRS IGRF data out of date message on my G3X. Looks like the IGRF data for the G3X update for the new magnetic field model requires the 9.0 update per the note on the bottom of  Garmin Support Page

Note: For G3X Touch systems, the system will receive the 2020 IGRF file with a G3X Touch software update to software version 9.00

Got my appointment scheduled for Monday afternoon to update all my avionics, excited to add the smart glide features as I had not updated the 650xi yet!  

Crap.  I got that error when I fired up on Saturday.  I guess at least you've told me what it is but I'm not super happy that I need to pay someone for an update.  I presume this cannot be user/owner installed?

[carusoam]

Skip just sold out the button engineers… 

I never realized what caused the funky button pushing antics until today…

Thanks,

-a-

[PT20J]

1 hour ago, PJClark said:

Crap.  I got that error when I fired up on Saturday.  I guess at least you've told me what it is but I'm not super happy that I need to pay someone for an update.  I presume this cannot be user/owner installed?

Well, technically it requires a logbook entry. If you have an A&P friend you could do it yourself and have them sign it off. But Garmin makes it available (unlike the GTNs where only the dealers can get the software updates ). https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?partNumber=G3X-TCERT-00&tab=software

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[donkaye]

What a waste of money putting in the button would be!  After having my G5 updated today, I went out and tested the system.  It worked as advertised.  I was a little surprised for a few seconds after I engaged it with some power still in.  The plane immediately pitched up and I waited to see what would happen.  I don't remember if I had it on altitude hold.  I need to go out and try that again.  At any rate, it pitched up significantly climbed and bled off airspeed until it hit best glide speed, then maintained it as the descent started.  In thinking about it, I need to go out and redo the test, this time with power off before engagement.  Actually, that probably isn't a bad idea if it was planned that way, as airspeed converted to altitude would increase the range.

Regarding the button, holding down the Direct button is a no brainer, as is going to the main menu and pressing the Emergency icon.