FlyDave Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Here is my solution to hot starts, after a one hour stop. Worked perfectly at last weeks Florida Mooney fly-in. Cooled engine bay at least 35 degrees F. and eliminated any vapor lock. Solar panels keep the the fan turning, and sucking out hot air, even when cloudy. Think Pedro and I should market it? Maybe I'll bring it to MAPA and see what the group says. Gary in SoFL Quote
FlyDave Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Posted August 19, 2009 Why my post carries the FlyDave name eludes me???? Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Well, everyone used to want to be me, but now it looks like you're the cool guy on the block. What model do you have? My M20J doesn't have a problem with hot starts even with my slow Kelly starter. Quote
FlyDave Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Posted August 19, 2009 Well - This IS FlyDave and I'm wondering the same thing - I didn't post it. You should log out of Mooneyspace.com and log back in with your own user id, then re-post here to verify your on the right ID. Quote
FlyDave Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Posted August 19, 2009 Let's see..... Want your credit card #'s back, also Gary in SoFL, with an M20J Quote
Mcstealth Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Quote: FlyDave Why my post carries the FlyDave name eludes me???? Quote
FlyDave Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Posted August 19, 2009 Quote: FlyDave Let's see..... Want your credit card #'s back, also Gary in SoFL, with an M20J Quote
fantom Posted August 20, 2009 Report Posted August 20, 2009 Quote: FlyDave This IS Flydave. What is your MooneySpace username? Quote
PTK Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 I have difficulty starting a warm engine some times after shut down. The first start of the day is perfect and quick. But if I shut down and then try to restart again later it gives a little trouble. You mentioned vapor locked. I aleays thought it was flooded. How do you tell the difference between vapor locked and flooded?? Also you put solar panels and a fan where? Thanks! Quote
fantom Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 After that much time you won't be flooded unless your giving her fuel....which you shouldn't. If you've flooded it, you can either smell it with the pass door opened, and/or see some excess fuel on the tarmac. Other options....Sky Tec high speed starter....rebuilding fuel servo and/or spider....adjusting timing. Quote
Tom_Veatch Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 Quote: allsmiles I have difficulty starting a warm engine some times after shut down. The first start of the day is perfect and quick. But if I shut down and then try to restart again later it gives a little trouble. You mentioned vapor locked. I aleays thought it was flooded. How do you tell the difference between vapor locked and flooded?? Also you put solar panels and a fan where? Thanks! Quote
FlyDave Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Posted May 12, 2010 I have had my J for about 2 months now and have racked up almost 50 hours. My mechanic gave me a hot start procedure that has worked every time I've tried it: Mixture forward Prop forward Throttle forward Master on Boost pump ~1 second Mixture full lean Throttle set ~1000 RPM Engage starter In 5-7 blades it starts Gently ease the mixture in I've had great success with this hot start technique. This post DID come from FlyDave Quote
Immelman Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 That's a pretty cool fix! I got this procedure, slightly modified, from a MAPA log article. Never once had trouble with a hot start: - Throttle cracked, for 1000 RPM - Keep the mixture all the way in cut-off - Boost pump on (this will not introduce any fuel because of the mixture but helps as the engine catches - Crank and feed in the mixture after it catches Works like a charm for me -- even through *eighteen* starts I did the weekend before last, each one a few minutes after the other, to do a compass swing. Quote
laytonl Posted May 12, 2010 Report Posted May 12, 2010 A good way to know how much to "crack" the throttle is to leave at the idle position it is at on shut down (i.e., with the engine at idle, pull the mixture to idle cut-off and don't touch the throttle until after the engine is started again.) That seems to be about the correct amount to crack the throttle. Lee Quote
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