Tom_Veatch

Sounds like the Bravo Tango school of aircraft merchandising.

Quote: jetdriven ... Also, logic says 50 LOP is the exact same as 50 ROP so I do not know why the flame tubes are burned away in your muffler, EGT is EGT. ROP or LOP. ...

Quote: Aviator4Life ... 10 hrs minimum in make and model over the past 12 months, before the candidate share owner's checkout can begin, seems more appropriate. ...

This guy seems to be pretty hard over toward the 231. http://www.mooneyland.com/201%20vs%20231.htm Hard to read on my monitor - had to cut and paste into a separate text document. But, assuming you can read it, any comments?

I agree. Sexy looking airplane, but I wonder how old those photo's are. Don't exactly know why, because they don't look much alike, but it sorta makes me think of an ME108. According to the FAA registry,since 4/20/09 N231TM has been a Robertson R22 belonging to Casablanca Helecopter in Bethany Beach, DE. Before that, until 01/05/1989, N231TM was an M20F. Mooney prototype for a military trainer contract bid, maybe???

If a couple or three things work out the way I hope in the next few months, I expect to be seriously in the market for an airplane. Since the expected mission would involve significant time at oxygen altitudes in and above some pretty high real estate, I'm thinking turbocharging, if not a necessity for comfortably dealing with the high density altitudes, would certainly be advisable. Looking at the Mooney line (and the resources that could be made available), I'm thinking something in the 1979-1985 M20K-231 model would be close to ideal for my purpose. From what I understand, the J (201) and the K (231) during those model years were essentially the same airplane aft of the firewall. Yet, the asking prices I see in the classifieds for similarly equipped 201's and 231's suggest the market doesn't see a greater value in the turbo 231. I'm aware of the teething problems of the Continental GB engine which the LB doesn't completely cure and would love to expand the search to a MB equipped 252 -or possibly buy a runout 231 and mod it with the MB engine, but there is a limit to available resources. I'm aware the care and feeding of the Continental TSIO-360 is more expensive than the Lycoming IO-360, but are there other reasons for the lack of a greater differential between the asking prices of the 201 and 231 from the early '80s? (or is there a differential there that I'm simply not seeing)

Quote: Piloto ...The Mooney wing sits too close to the ground to have a noticeable ground effect. ...

Quote: LuvFlying Is there a spell check function hiding somewhere? Normally, when filling in a form, my browser (firefox 3.5.4) will normally point out errors. But for some reason, that does not happen here... and I don't see and spell check function built into the posting function of the forum. Seems like a basic / staple item to have.

Quote: danb35 Seconded--when I dropped by Mooneyspace this morning, I was logged in (and inadvertently posted) as someone else. Seems like a fairly significant bug to me.

Please bear with me, I'm trying to play catch-up on 30 years of absence from the flying community. Last time I was at the controls of an airplane, RNAV computers using VOR and DME inputs were the latest and greatest. The FAA was considering thinking about the possibility of maybe looking into using those new-fangled gadgets for en-route, point-to-point IFR navigation . As far as I know, LORAN had military and maritime applications, but no general aviation application. GPS was little more than a gleam in some research professor's eye. Looking at the classifieds with the thought of becoming an aircraft owner, I see LORAN listed in the on-board avionics in many of them. As I understand it, the Coast Guard turned off the LORAN transmitters this past February. Am I missing something, or are the LORAN receivers in these aircraft just so much dead weight, good for door stops, boat anchors, and conversation pieces, but little else. Looks to me like the presence of LORAN receivers in a GA aircraft would be a negative. Or do they still have some utility?

From the AOPA website, http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2006/060614sb.html : "But SBs can't be made mandatory for aircraft owners flying their aircraft in noncommercial operations. In a letter of interpretation AOPA requested in 2001, the FAA's Small Airplane Directorate said, "Small airplane design approval holders cannot unilaterally impose mandatory compliance with manufacturers' SBs."

Quote: KLRDMD ... I can't say that I've ever even been afraid. I have been concerned a few times, but nothing more. Who among us has experienced terror or fear ? Tell us about it.

Quote: KSMooniac Tom, I'm in Wichita too and used Don Maxwell in Longview, TX for my prebuy 3 years ago for the plane I found here in town. I'll be happy to help you in any way I can.

Quote: fantom I trust joining MAPA is another one of your bullets. http://www.mooney.com/service-support/mooney-service-centers-3.html

Quote: Parker_Woodruff Your best "agent" is a Mooney Service Center for prebuy. ...