mooniacX Posted November 25, 2020 Report Posted November 25, 2020 Hi All. PIREP time. I have the Uavionix skybeacon and it works great. I decided to add the skysensor on the right side. It works flawlessly. My IA did have to do a 337 since it is still experimental but for any of you needing ads-b in, its a really nice unit. Installation took about 15 minutes (had to bypass the high voltage of the strobe) 3 wires, just like the skybeacon. Once done all that is needed is to find the skysensor wifi and load up your EFB and you are ready to go. 2 Quote
carusoam Posted November 25, 2020 Report Posted November 25, 2020 Great pirep, mX! Not being familiar with their ADSB-in device... I had to look it up... https://uavionix.com/products/skysensor/ Best regards, -a- Quote
MikeOH Posted November 26, 2020 Report Posted November 26, 2020 This looks to be a $750, plus installation, solution for ADS-B in. As I have Foreflight on my iPad, I went with the $200 Scout solution (NO install cost): https://flywithscout.com Quote
EricJ Posted November 26, 2020 Report Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) Or a Stratux with dual-band ADSB-in, a WAAS-GPS source for your EFB, AHRS and battery for $250. Less if you buy a kit and put it together yourself. https://www.amazon.com/Stratux-Receiver-Aviation-Weather-Traffic/dp/B071HMQY19 Edited November 26, 2020 by EricJ Quote
LANCECASPER Posted November 26, 2020 Report Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeOH said: This looks to be a $750, plus installation, solution for ADS-B in. As I have Foreflight on my iPad, I went with the $200 Scout solution (NO install cost): https://flywithscout.com 42 minutes ago, EricJ said: Or a Stratux with dual-band ADSB-in, a WAAS-GPS source for your EFB, AHRS and battery for $250. Less if you buy a kit and put it together yourself. https://www.amazon.com/Stratux-Receiver-Aviation-Weather-Traffic/dp/B071HMQY19 But with his Skysensor he also now has the green position light on that side plus a strobe and it matches the other side aesthetically. 2 Quote
Tim Jodice Posted November 26, 2020 Report Posted November 26, 2020 $750 plus install to keep warts off your glareshield. No wires, no batteries. That looks like an awesome way to get ads-b in. 1 Quote
MikeOH Posted November 27, 2020 Report Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: But with his Skysensor he also now has the green position light on that side plus a strobe and it matches the other side aesthetically. Well, that explains it, then! I already had the strobe and green position light. And, since I went with the TailBeacon, I was aesthetically copacetic, too Quote
MikeOH Posted November 27, 2020 Report Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Tim Jodice said: $750 plus install to keep warts off your glareshield. No wires, no batteries. That looks like an awesome way to get ads-b in. Hey, I'm a proud CB. No batteries, or glare shield warts with the Scout. Mounts in the corner of the windshield with suction cups. One wire routed inconspicuously is well worth saving well over $550 ($550 delta plus install costs) YMMV, but that's a bunch of avgas! Quote
vorlon1 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 9:08 PM, MikeOH said: Mounts in the corner of the windshield with suction cups. Pretty much defines what I call a 'wart.' (Not that there's anything wrong with that!) You're right, that's a lot of avgas; and according to the website, it's for experimental aircraft. Hopefully there is an effort to certify it. 1 Quote
James3273 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 11/24/2020 at 6:17 PM, mooniacX said: Hi All. PIREP time. I have the Uavionix skybeacon and it works great. I decided to add the skysensor on the right side. It works flawlessly. My IA did have to do a 337 since it is still experimental but for any of you needing ads-b in, its a really nice unit. Installation took about 15 minutes (had to bypass the high voltage of the strobe) 3 wires, just like the skybeacon. Once done all that is needed is to find the skysensor wifi and load up your EFB and you are ready to go. Can you share your 337 ? Quote
James3273 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, James3273 said: Can you share your 337 ? Already have the SkyBeacon. Looking to add the sky sensor. Need the 337 information if you wouldn’t mind sharing that information. Quote
McMooney Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 man, guess i'm a glutton for pain, i have a Stratus 2i mounted behind the glareshield And a GDL393d on the floor between the seats. 750$ doesn't sound that bad Quote
vorlon1 Posted October 28, 2021 Report Posted October 28, 2021 15 hours ago, James3273 said: Already have the SkyBeacon. Looking to add the sky sensor. Need the 337 information if you wouldn’t mind sharing that information. ^^^^^ What he said. Quote
mooniacX Posted October 28, 2021 Author Report Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 1:35 PM, James3273 said: Already have the SkyBeacon. Looking to add the sky sensor. Need the 337 information if you wouldn’t mind sharing that information. It is the same as the skybeacon. Exact same hook up just on the other side. Quote
1964-M20E Posted October 29, 2021 Report Posted October 29, 2021 337 Maybe not?? I'm not an IA but wouldn't this be a minor mod and log book entry by an A&P? I think that it is. Minor mods don't need 337 correct? I'm not sure how it all works but couldn't you also go under the added safety route as well like shoulder belts, AOA and other items? Quote
vorlon1 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Posted October 30, 2021 So are you saying we can install experimental electronics in the plane and call it a minor mod? When did this change happen? Quote
cliffy Posted November 2, 2021 Report Posted November 2, 2021 The "experimental" issue I think will be found in that the position light is not TSO'd but "MEETS" TSO requirements. The other side completed the full TSO approvals. How to get around that "may" work in how the 337 is signed off but remember 337s are not reviewed anymore by anyone at the FAA They are only filed away in our aircraft records. I too would like to see a copy of the 337 Please do post it for all of us Quote
carusoam Posted November 2, 2021 Report Posted November 2, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 9:24 AM, vorlon1 said: So are you saying we can install experimental electronics in the plane and call it a minor mod? When did this change happen? Over the past few years… Slowly things have entered the cockpit that are incredibly useful… where the FAA would not have approved it… If you have been around long enough… you will remember the illegal nature of having outdated charts in the plane… So instead of having some good information to work with… pilots tossed the old stuff to not get in trouble with it… Like everything else… when it is outside your area of expertise… don’t be afraid to find the guy that has the expertise and get his input… It took a long time to get iPad charts approved for use in flight… today, iPad mounts are made to look like real instruments… yet, they are fully removable in flight without tools… and are connected to the certified power system… And today’s FAA is a whole lot better than yesterday’s…. Things that looked experimental one day… may have cleared enough hurdles to meet installation right on the panel… use the Garmin G5 for example… So… if the same device comes in two flavors… make sure you get the one marked certified for a few dollars more… Same for the fancy G3X… straight from the experimental division at G…. The only thing that is constant… is change. Best regards, -a- Quote
vorlon1 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 On 11/24/2020 at 7:17 PM, mooniacX said: Hi All. PIREP time. I have the Uavionix skybeacon and it works great. I decided to add the skysensor on the right side. It works flawlessly. My IA did have to do a 337 since it is still experimental but for any of you needing ads-b in, its a really nice unit. Installation took about 15 minutes (had to bypass the high voltage of the strobe) 3 wires, just like the skybeacon. Once done all that is needed is to find the skysensor wifi and load up your EFB and you are ready to go. @mooniacXPlease, oh please look up the 337 and send a photo? Quote
cliffy Posted December 10, 2021 Report Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, vorlon1 said: @mooniacXPlease, oh please look up the 337 and send a photo? DITTO PLEASE Quote
mooniacX Posted December 15, 2021 Author Report Posted December 15, 2021 Hey guys, Sorry, I just saw this. I will go see exactly what he did and get back to you. I have not been able to fly for awhile, but will go grab the logs. Quote
vorlon1 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 4:15 PM, mooniacX said: Hey guys, Sorry, I just saw this. I will go see exactly what he did and get back to you. I have not been able to fly for awhile, but will go grab the logs. Quote
papa pilot Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 Any luck getting a pic of the 337 your IA used to install SkySensor? Quote
chriscalandro Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) A 337 does NOT allow you to install non TSO / certified equipment. if that was the case all of us Dynon people would have an autopilot. There is NOT a legal path to getting this installed short of getting a DER involved and or an stc. There is the question of “who cares”, and where I live, the answer is for sure the FSDO. Edited July 21, 2022 by chriscalandro Quote
LANCECASPER Posted July 21, 2022 Report Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, papa pilot said: Any luck getting a pic of the 337 your IA used to install SkySensor? So that he knows you asked the question it's a good idea to quote him (like I am doing with you) or ping him @mooniacX Quote
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