Prop governor OH prices

[zerotact]

what are people paying to OH the governor, and where? '82 m20j

[jetdriven]

If you overall exchange it for a flat rate price around 800-1200 bucks but if you let them get a hold of it and they take it  apart then it could be 2500$ because they pull the repair station scam....they must replace all the inside hard parts with updated models for expensive prices and you're on the hook because you don't have a governor or a core until they give it back to you...which means you're going to pay what they want..  which is often more than you thinking and many times obscenely expensive ...  having learned of this from some of the other unfortunate Mooney owners I did exchange overhaul mine through quality aircraft accessories in Tulsa. 

Edited January 4, 2017 by jetdriven

[zerotact]

What different part numbers could I use?

[jonhop]

Had my governor overhauled by Truespeed Aero Governors Inc in Van Nuys, CA about four months ago at a cost under $800 excluding shipping. They had different options for the overhaul and I am happy with it so far. They also helped advise on a new propeller install, as I was having problems reaching 2700 RPMs after installation. No infant mortality problems on the governor so far but I've only got about 15hrs on it.  (818) 997-8429 is their number and Adil is the owner... I would definitely use Truespeed again in the future, as Adil answered over 1000 of my questions and was very helpful. He was up front with his pricing that included replacing every part in the governor. That included changing out a required internal cover from plastic to metal on the governor because the governor had been upgraded since mine was manufactured...

The propeller shop that overhauled my propeller and hub wanted to charge twice what Truespeed did and had caveats similar to what jetdriven experienced, so I feel like I made a good choice in selecting Truespeed. But another 100hrs will determine how good the overhaul is.

Your part number will be stamped on the side of the governor. Or you could retrieve it from the Type Certificate Data Sheet database here: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet . If you remove it to get the part number, be advised that it a PITA to remove. If you do send it to Truespeed, make sure the large angle iron that it is mounted to goes with it. I got a lecture from Adil about why it needed to accompany the governor. 

Edited January 4, 2017 by jonhop

[Raptor05121]

I just had my governor resealed by Air Prop Specialists, Inc in Marianna, FL. $300 for parts, labor, and shipping. Check to make sure you can't IRAN the unit before wasting money on O/H.

[jdrake]

+1 for Sensenich.  Similar price and excellent work at the Lancaster PA location.  Henry Weber is the MSC literally next door.  Supremely convenient for removal/installation.

[flyboy0681]

How much have people paid for both, a prop overhaul and governor during the same visit?

[zerotact]

I made it home to gather info..

c290d3f/t12   Is what is on there.   Now I explore my options.  

  How does the part number breakdown?   I know it's a C290D. Series.   But what do the other numbers mean?  Can I only use that exact number?  Or?

Edited January 8, 2017 by zerotact

[flyboy0681]

23 minutes ago, zerotact said:

I made it home to gather info..

c290d3f/t12   Is what is on there.   Now I explore my options.   

?

[Chris from PA]

Last Summer my governor ('65 C model) received a major overhaul from New England Propeller Service in CT.  Labor alone was $495.  Total bill was $1,300. 

[zerotact]

For those who wanted to know.... I got a best quote of $725 for the overhaul...  I took some time to call them up and ask some questions....

c290d3f/t12   the " f " is a revision code....  the flywheel parts  that are this old are not allowed to be overhauled..  And the Drive gear is only allowed 40 thousands wear...

So even worse case scenario if everything is a problem  is still  below $1700  

 

 

[zerotact]

On ‎1‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 10:10 AM, flyboy0681 said:

How much have people paid for both, a prop overhaul and governor during the same visit?

I have gotten a prop overhaul quote for my C214 prop  @ $2800...    

 

[jetdriven]

On 1/3/2017 at 9:31 PM, jonhop said:

Had my governor overhauled by Truespeed Aero Governors Inc in Van Nuys, CA about four months ago at a cost under $800 excluding shipping. They had different options for the overhaul and I am happy with it so far. They also helped advise on a new propeller install, as I was having problems reaching 2700 RPMs after installation. No infant mortality problems on the governor so far but I've only got about 15hrs on it.  (818) 997-8429 is their number and Adil is the owner... I would definitely use Truespeed again in the future, as Adil answered over 1000 of my questions and was very helpful. He was up front with his pricing that included replacing every part in the governor. That included changing out a required internal cover from plastic to metal on the governor because the governor had been upgraded since mine was manufactured...

The propeller shop that overhauled my propeller and hub wanted to charge twice what Truespeed did and had caveats similar to what jetdriven experienced, so I feel like I made a good choice in selecting Truespeed. But another 100hrs will determine how good the overhaul is.

Your part number will be stamped on the side of the governor. Or you could retrieve it from the Type Certificate Data Sheet database here: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet . If you remove it to get the part number, be advised that it a PITA to remove. If you do send it to Truespeed, make sure the large angle iron that it is mounted to goes with it. I got a lecture from Adil about why it needed to accompany the governor. 

 

we just had Adil do our governor at Truespeed and I can’t recommend him enough   Small shop, attention to detail, excellent communication and follow up, the price is more than fair. He turned it around in two days.  
 

I’m sending all my governors to him in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

[carusoam]

Great pireps for truespeed aero governors…

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[lotsofgadgets]

I am VERY happy with West Coast Governor Service.  When I was rebuilding the engine on my 82J I sent the governor to QAA in Tulsa.  They tried to do a bait/switch with a low overhaul price ($800) if you send yours in vs an advance exchange.  They claimed my governor was beyond economic repair and recommended outright purchase at $2395.  Instead I called West Coast Governor.  An outright sale from them was only $1395.  

[LANCECASPER]

32 minutes ago, lotsofgadgets said:

I am VERY happy with West Coast Governor Service.  When I was rebuilding the engine on my 82J I sent the governor to QAA in Tulsa.  They tried to do a bait/switch with a low overhaul price ($800) if you send yours in vs an advance exchange.  They claimed my governor was beyond economic repair and recommended outright purchase at $2395.  Instead I called West Coast Governor.  An outright sale from them was only $1395.  

Yet another ripoff from QAA in Tulsa. 

[PT20J]

Dan Long at West Coast Governors is terrific. When I swapped out my IO-360-A3B6D for a -A3B6, I needed a slightly different governor. Dan didn't have one in stock, but while I was on the phone with him he found one on eBay and bought it without me paying him anything. Then he overhauled it and took my governor in exchange for a very reasonable price. Later when the McCauley bearing AD came out I called him and he sent me the detailed work order and parts list for the overhaul that showed he used a different equivalent bearing. That was enough documentation for my IA to sign off the AD. 

Skip

[FLYFST]

Like Skip and others have said, "Dan Long at West Coast Governors is terrific".  I sought him out because of recommendation in MooneySpace, and he met or exceeded my expectations.  He came through for me in replacing my old governor with a different, newly overhauled governor when like Skip I swapped out my IO-360-A3B6D for a -A3B6.  I contacted Dan several weeks before I would need the governor and he offered to have one ready and waiting for me when I needed it, at a very reasonable price, and that is exactly what he did  He was also very responsive and patient in dealing with the questions I gave him regarding the installation.

Hank

[glenn reynolds]

My Governor is at Sullivan Propeller in Hayward CA.  While I have not yet seen the bill, before I even sent them the governor, they saved me about six months of down time and then found me a mobile mechanic to help swap my engine and prop in the field.  I'll keep you posted on the cost next week.  

[bradp]

I’ll let you know how my governor swap goes. It’s currently with Adil at Truespeed after metal contamination.  That means OH from McCauley guidance.
 

My issue is that whomever worked on that governor in 2006 (before I bought the plane) cobbled together a bunch of parts that shouldn’t be together (the flywheel doesn’t match the data plate doesn’t match the bracket and a 30 year obsoleted gear was used or reused). It worked for 16 years and benched fine but a repair station can’t sign off on that combination of parts.  
 

Anyway the issue is that the overhaul was reasonable and individual parts to bring it in line wouldn’t be that bad (about $1300 out the door), but the cable would have had to be re rigged with a different style bracket.  That would likely be more than a few extra labor hours after installation to re rig and dial in. 
 

To keep the current bracket and rigging, which I know works, I’d have to replace the flywheel to match the data plate for that setup.  
 

Sum told, I didn’t go with the overhaul options with Adil (would have been $1300 instead of $800 no issues OH but new bracket and rigging required), and to buy a new flywheel and gear to be able to keep my bracket and rigging orientation would have been > cost of a new unit.  
 

Adil has been extremely helpful. So what I’m going to do is get a brand new McCauley unit through Adil and sell my used one back to him for a core.  A few hundred more than OH cost, but new unit, warranty, drop in installation will be cost saving in the end.  
 

Adil said that there were a number of prop shops who got hand slapped by the FAA in the early 00s for putting together random parts. So this is an example of why you want someone who does things the right way without shortcuts working on your plane.  Would highly recommend working with Adil and would send a governor to him in the future. 

[dylanac]

I got mine "overhauled" at Maxwell aircraft in MN for around $800. Not sure how much work they did, it still isn't working correctly.