Mooneymite Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I have a "Guppy Mouth" C model with a doghouse instead of the more common baffling. The rubber that seals the cowling to the engine compartment has deteriorated after just 41 years. I found the rubber material, but am trying to figure out the best fasteners to use since the only stapler I have is a desk stapler. I have considered PK screws and pop-rivets, but am wondering if anyone else has replaced the rubber seal and what they used, or what you Mooney gurus out there might suggest. Picture attached. (Hopefully.) 1 Quote
sleepingsquirrel Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I have seen these staples replaced by stitching with safety wire. Quote
N601RX Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I've saw large headed pop rivets used. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/cowlsealhardware6.php?clickkey=4237 Quote
N6758N Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Use solid rivets with washers on the shop head end. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 If you get some piano wire the same size as the staple wire you can just poke the wire through the baffle seal and bend it over. It doesn't take very long. Quote
Mooneymite Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Posted February 8, 2015 If you get some piano wire the same size as the staple wire you can just poke the wire through the baffle seal and bend it over. It doesn't take very long. I hadn't considered piano wire; I figured safety wire is too soft. I wonder how many band-aids will be required by my finger tips by the 43rd bend? My only concern about pop rivets is the pain involved if they ever have to be removed. That's a lot of pop rivets! Thank you all for your input. Any other ideas? Quote
Piloto Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I use big pop rivets. They last longer than the staples and are easy to install. José Quote
Marauder Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Mine has pop rivets as well. If the first baffle lasted 41 years, I would think pop rivets could give staples a run for their money. 1 Quote
HRM Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Could call the folks at airplane baffles dot-com and ask what they recommend. Quote
HRM Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I use big pop rivets. They last longer than the staples and are easy to install. José NICE engine! Quote
Guest Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 I have a "Guppy Mouth" C model with a doghouse instead of the more common baffling. The rubber that seals the cowling to the engine compartment has deteriorated after just 41 years. I found the rubber material, but am trying to figure out the best fasteners to use since the only stapler I have is a desk stapler. I have considered PK screws and pop-rivets, but am wondering if anyone else has replaced the rubber seal and what they used, or what you Mooney gurus out there might suggest. Picture attached. (Hopefully.) I've used silicon adhesive and wedge lock clamps while the silicon cures. Then use MS20470 A series rivets and washers, carefully squeeze the rivets only enough to avoid puckering between the rivets. The adhesive reduces the puckers. Clarence Quote
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