Moving map and weather for android -flight pro

[bd32322]

Looks like finally there is a foreflight equivalent for android tablets, finally.

http://flightpro.com/

[midlifeflyer]

Finally finally? It's been around for a while with the name Avilution. Actually quite good.

[bd32322]

Finally finally? It's been around for a while with the name Avilution. Actually quite good.

I had no idea. I like their pay per month no contract plan. For most trips around my home base in vfr i do not need a full moving map. Only for the longer ifr trips do I want the moving map. Only problem is the monthly plan does not have georeferenced approach plates, it just has normal plates. For the georef plates have to pay a yearly subscription

[Hank]

I've wanted to try Avilution, but have no incentive since Avare is free [pronounced av-air]. I've had it for a while, always been going to test it. Found out today that it works well in the air, although I'm still struggling to activate a saved flight plan. Went direct anyway, and headwinds gave me lots of time to play. [Just not in KY--everything was nice and smooth, until I'd pick up the tablet, scroll around the 430 map, look at the sectional, or do anything other than fly and be alert, then turbulence would hit. At least it wasn't continuous, but occasionally it was pretty bad.

 

Check out Avare, it's a great free offering.

[Piloto]

I have no experience with these new tablet products. 

Question: If you stop or don't pay your subscription can you hold on to your last map data and use the expired data to make flight plans and moving maps like the Garmin portables or it just quit working.

 

José 

[kerry]

avare is free.  You don't pay.

[carusoam]

WingX goes on for quite a while. The subscription will be available to multiple 2? devices...when you update to a new I-device, the third device has WingX, but not updated...

They keep you in a pseudo safe condition, just not updated.

No chart evaporation, At least, that's my experience.

Best regards,

-a-

[Bob - S50]

Looks like finally there is a foreflight equivalent for android tablets, finally.

http://flightpro.com/

I've been using Naviator for a year.  $35/year.  $70 more if you want geo-referenced approach plates.

 

Bob

[Steve65E-NC]

Bob,

Strange website for Naviator. You did not give a link so a search bought me to Naviatorapp which I think you are referring to. Looks interesting but no pricing or detail on alternatives or purchase. Is there a better website or review to learn about it?

[Bob - S50]

Bob,

Strange website for Naviator. You did not give a link so a search bought me to Naviatorapp which I think you are referring to. Looks interesting but no pricing or detail on alternatives or purchase. Is there a better website or review to learn about it?

Steve,

 

Sorry about that.  Yes, that is the website.  Here it is for others:

 

http://naviatorapp.com/

 

The program itself is called Naviator.  On the features tab, under FAQ you'll find subscriptions and pricing.   You can find the price there.  You can also try it free for 30 days.

 

Bob

[rainman]

My WingX subscription expires in a couple of months, and I think I'm going to switch to Foreflight Pro. With WingX, I needed to get an additional subscription from Seattle Avionics for GeoReferencing on the approach plates. With Foreflight Pro, it's all included. WingX has been good, but everyone around me uses Foreflight and seems to be happier. Has anyone switched or had experience with both?

Recommendations?

[Bob - S50]

I think I'm going over to the dark side.  Sometime this summer or early fall (better half permitting) I think I'm going to buy a Garmin GDL 39 3D.  One of my partners is interested, don't know about the other two.  The more of us that want it the less it will cost me.

 

Anyway, if I buy that, I'll need to use Garmin Pilot to take full advantage of the GDL.  With that combination it will give me ADS-B in, both traffic and weather, and a backup attitude indicator (even if it isn't legal for IFR).  In the worst case scenario if I have total electrical failure, my Android tablet with the GDL will give me enough information on battery power to hopefully get me to VMC so I can go VFR and land someplace.

 

Bob

[Hank]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, Bob, but the last total electrical failure I had [shortly after descending out of the clouds], my DG and AI worked perfectly--they run on vacuum. The altimeter and VSI worked, too. I have a free app on my droid phone that's always with me [Avare] that would suffice for GPS. That would get me where I'm going. I also learned that day to keep the handheld in the plane even for local flights, and keep the batteries charged. That would enable communication, then ATC could help me navigate, sort of [hard to see on the radar without a transponder]. No need for new instruments to do that . . .

 

But it you want the extra ADSB information, go for it anyway. It's only money, which can also buy avgas, rental cars and hotel rooms.

[Bob - S50]

I'm just paranoid.  I want a backup attitude indicator just in case mine dies either due vacuum or mechanical problems.  After all, I am based in the Seattle area where it rains every day.  I hate the thought of flying over the mountains on the way home some time and needing to use the turn coordinator for primary control.  A second attitude indicator would be much nicer.

 

Eventually we'll need to put in ADS-B 'out'.  It would be 'nice' to have ADS-B in as well.  Since we are located under the Seattle Class B, and a fairly busy area (when the sun comes out) I'm mostly interested in the traffic portion.  Once I retire I plan to do significant flying to the SFO, DEN, LAX, and PHX areas.  All Class B's, busy, and again traffic info would be nice.

 

Before Garmin came out with the 3D version, the cheapest way for me to get the backup attitude indicator was going to be the Dynon D1.  That's $1200.  The GDL 39 3D is only $900.  Garmin Pilot costs $75/year vs the $35 I'm currently paying for Naviator.  By going with the GDL, I'll save $300 initially and get ADS-B 'in' to boot.  At $40/year difference, it will be 8 years before I'll have spent what it would cost for the Dynon.

 

See?  I am just a cheap Mooney pilot !

 

Bob

[midlifeflyer]

My WingX subscription expires in a couple of months, and I think I'm going to switch to Foreflight Pro. With WingX, I needed to get an additional subscription from Seattle Avionics for GeoReferencing on the approach plates. With Foreflight Pro, it's all included. WingX has been good, but everyone around me uses Foreflight and seems to be happier. Has anyone switched or had experience with both?

Recommendations?

Why are you asking about a comparison of two ipad apps in a discussion about android apps?

[Marauder]

Why are you asking about a comparison of two ipad apps in a discussion about android apps?

Because we are notorious for thread creep.

[Marauder]

My WingX subscription expires in a couple of months, and I think I'm going to switch to Foreflight Pro. With WingX, I needed to get an additional subscription from Seattle Avionics for GeoReferencing on the approach plates. With Foreflight Pro, it's all included. WingX has been good, but everyone around me uses Foreflight and seems to be happier. Has anyone switched or had experience with both? Recommendations?

Try the free 30 day trialware version of ForeFlight. What you actually will like will depend on your personal likes and dislikes for the graphical interface. I tried WingX and didn't like a few features including how flight plans were created using their routing feature. It comes down to what clicks for you. I still have ForeFlight Pro on my iPad along with Garmin Pilot. I was disappointed it wouldn't run on Droid devices. I kept it because I expected Aspen to have finally figured out how to get Connected Pilot to work with my GTN GPS. That doesn't look like it will happen and I will let the subscription runout this year. Even if it did work, I am not a big fan of how the GUI looks and feels. Others love it's simplicity but I seem to be always looking for stuff on it. The Garmin Pilot app organizes stuff in a way that clicks for me. Here are my ForeFlight disappointments: - when you create a flight plan, why not automatically create chart folders for departure and arrival plates? Really love that feature on Garmin. - just don't get the plate overlay on the chart. I find it hard to get the opacity to work with IFR Lo charts. - the little icons around the map are not intuitive for me. Again for others they work. - the way TFRs are presented bothers me. On FF, they are red regardless if they are active. On GP, they turn red when active. Since I live in Joe's backyard, this is important for me. Here are a couple of examples. Joe's TFR goes active at 11:15 am EDT today. ForeFlight depiction: Garmin depiction: I do like the format of the TFR detail from ForeFlight over Garmin, but the yellow versus red thing is more important to me. If the cost of the antennae wasn't so prohibitive, I would be switching more frequently.

[mike_elliott]

I don't think Aspen can get the connected panel to work with the GTN garmin stuff without hacking the data stream, rendering the GTN non approved or just causing Garmin to re-encrypt the next month. The problem is Garmin, not Aspen. They want to be secretive so you are captive to buy all Garmin once you put in one piece of gear.  

 

IBM tried that it in the 80's, JPI tried it,

It didn't work out so well for these guys, But maybe Garmin can re-write history  

 

 

. I kept it because I expected Aspen to have finally figured out how to get Connected Pilot to work with my GTN GPS. That doesn't look like it will happen and I will let the subscription runout this year. I do like the format of the TFR detail from ForeFlight over Garmin, but the yellow versus red thing is more important to me. If the cost of the antennae wasn't so prohibitive, I would be switching more frequently.