1TJ Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Continental Motors will begin requiring the use of Camguard in all of their Mattituck overhauls and repaired engines to maintain their warranties. The formal announcement of our relationship will be announced at Sun n Fun. Ed Edward Kollin Technical Director Aircraft Specialties Lubricants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N33GG Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hmmmmm...... That's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Cool. Been using it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Congratulations on the endorsement Ed! That ought to help sway some people that it's not just snake oil. However, I am a little confused, why only rebuilds and repairs? Why not the new engines too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N33GG Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 That's easy Dave. For new engines, Continental recommends Marvel Mystery Oil! (Just kidding.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyBob Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I have just changed my oil. Phillips and Camguard. We'll see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakeup Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Is anyone going to change to Camguard based on this?? I am changing my oil next week and curious!! I don't want to be the only one not going it. Lol. Thanks. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Congratulations on the endorsement Ed! That ought to help sway some people that it's not just snake oil. However, I am a little confused, why only rebuilds and repairs? Why not the new engines too? Baby steps. Huge momentum to overcome. First the Continental Service Center became a Camguard dealer. Now this endorsement. Ed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronk25 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Ed, I assume your personally going to be at fun n sun? If so I'd like to stop by and say hi. Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Ed, Is there a time to hold-off using Camguard after OH still? Bet regards, -a- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garysuperpilot Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I've been using aeroshell 100plus for quite a while. Any advantage to using camguard along with it? Don't think it would hurt but would it be best to be used with the Phillips 20/50? My mechanic is sold on the 100plus but I used the camguard with the phillips in my Cherokee before and I was pleased with it. I just feel the need to "baby" the mooney a bit more so was wondering what most of you used. I have a 67 M20F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 With all this new business the price is going to drop, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 How about a mooneyspace special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 With all this new business the price is going to drop, right? Hahahahahahahaha.... I wish..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinerunner Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I've been using Camguard almost from the start when I got my plane two years ago based on Mike Busch's vid on oil. I don't quite take everything he says as gospel but I guess close to it. I envy him a bit. Wish I was set up ($$$) so I could fly a 310 enough to take two engines well past TBO. I use Aeroshell 100 and add camguard or occasionally Aeroshell 100 plus which MB says has the same additives just a bit less. In winter (Maine) I did switch to multigrade but ended not flying it (M20E) so switched again to Aeroshell 2F pickling oil and dessicant plugs. The Avweb oil vid is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Ed, I assume your personally going to be at fun n sun? If so I'd like to stop by and say hi. Aaron I will be there all week, some of the time in the Continental booths. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Ed, Is there a time to hold-off using Camguard after OH still? Bet regards, -a- Yes, Continental is changing their break-in procedure some based on information I provided. I recommend oil changes at 1-2 hours then again 10-12 hours later. After the second oil change add Camguard and use a 25 hour change schedule. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Continental Motors will begin requiring the use of Camguard in all of their Mattituck overhauls and repaired engines to maintain their warranties. Please clarify Mr. Kollin. My impression based on your statement is that the warranty on these engines you mention is null and void if owner does not use your additive? Is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 With all this new business the price is going to drop, right? We have not increased our prices in 12 years even though our material costs have gone up 12-15%. Whereas we now buy material in drums we would need to buy it in truckloads to see discounts of 5-8%. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 I've been using aeroshell 100plus for quite a while. Any advantage to using camguard along with it? Don't think it would hurt but would it be best to be used with the Phillips 20/50? My mechanic is sold on the 100plus but I used the camguard with the phillips in my Cherokee before and I was pleased with it. I just feel the need to "baby" the mooney a bit more so was wondering what most of you used. I have a 67 M20F. There is no comparison between the W100+ and the W100 with Camguard. You get 25 time the concentration of rust inhibitor, dramatically better anti-wear and Camguard is the only lube product to offer deposit control. These reasons are behind Continental's decision. Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Please clarify Mr. Kollin. My impression based on your statement is that the warranty on these engines you mention is null and void if owner does not use your additive? Is this correct? Correct. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Correct. Ed Would you please post literature from Continental Motors to that effect? Specifically on the warranty being null and void without your additive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Would you please post literature from Continental Motors to that effect? Specifically on the warranty being null and void without your additive. There is nothing in print as of yet. The details have to be finalized. The announcement will come next week in Lakeland. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 There is nothing in print as of yet. The details have to be finalized. The announcement will come next week in Lakeland. Ed What announcement is that? Surely you must have something to substantiate your claim! What do you have from Continental Motors on the program? Specifically on the warranty being voided without your additive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronk25 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Please clarify Mr. Kollin. My impression based on your statement is that the warranty on these engines you mention is null and void if owner does not use your additive? Is this correct? This must be a very bad day for you considering the recent posts about how tempest plugs are night and day better than champions and now holy moly your gonna be required to use camguard if you buy one of their reman engines, is your world coming to an end:) sorry couldn't resist! I thank Ed Collins and Mike Busch for contributing there time and knowledge to help educate GA pilots as it pertains to engine maintenance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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