My New Mooney is on the Way!!

[bnicolette]

It was a beautiful day to fly. Super happy I didn't have to drive 8 hours!

[Nemesis]

Good luck with your new machine Doug. I sure sounds like Brett took good care of her.

 

Never having flown a J, I am guessing that my K model is considerably more nose heavy. What I was taught by Bruce Jeager, and confirmed through experimentation, is that it is necessary for me to set takeoff trim about 2 or so needle widths above the takeoff position (nose up) as labeled on the panel. When set that way the elevator has about equal resistance up or down, or perhaps feels just ever so slightly nose heavy. When set in the position labeled for takeoff, I am thinking I am going to break the yoke stalk off to get the nose up. Several other K owners have told me that they set their takeoff trim this way as well.

 

I am not advocating to set your trim as such, but it might be an option if you feel it is necessary. Of course, Brett will have the best info with regards to how he set everything for takeoff.

 

Dave

[Marauder]

I, too, have found through experimentation that I prefer to set the trim at the very top of the takeoff range on the trim indicator on my J. It really does improve takeoff handling. YMMV.

Also, a neat trick when deploying takeoff flaps is to fully deflect your ailerons and then, while looking out at the wing, run the flaps down until they match up with the downward deflected aileron. This will be the correct takeoff flap setting and is more accurate than the takeoff flap position indicator.

Jim

If you can do that... My F model has a detent switch for T/O position and full flaps. There is no in between.

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[Marauder]

Here is the flap lever. Only two positions.

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[Seth]

I, too, have found through experimentation that I prefer to set the trim at the very top of the takeoff range on the trim indicator on my J. It really does improve takeoff handling. YMMV.

Also, a neat trick when deploying takeoff flaps is to fully deflect your ailerons and then, while looking out at the wing, run the flaps down until they match up with the downward deflected aileron. This will be the correct takeoff flap setting and is more accurate than the takeoff flap position indicator.

Jim

 

All Mooney's I've flown with only one or two people aboard, I keep the nose trim a needle or two above the takeoff trim mark.  When full at gross weight, that's when the takeoff trim seems to be correctly marked.

 

-Seth

[Seth]

Also Doug, congrats on your new Mooney.  I only saw it in person once, but I know Brett is quite the professional and your aircraft is in great shape.

 

That picture is amazing in Utah. 

 

Enjoy.

 

-Seth

[dfgreene61]

Thanks for the tips guys.  I'll experiment and report back.  We're socked in today, hopefully Friday.

 

I'm planning to upgrade the panel with a IFR GPS after annual.  I've been told by a CFI friend that the new Garmin units (touch screen) have nothing over the tried and true 430/530 and that they are actually harder to deal with when turbulent.  Do any of you have any experience with them?

[Joe Zuffoletto]

I'm planning to upgrade the panel with a IFR GPS after annual.  I've been told by a CFI friend that the new Garmin units (touch screen) have nothing over the tried and true 430/530 and that they are actually harder to deal with when turbulent.  Do any of you have any experience with them?

 

Doug, congratulations on your new Mooney! You might want to start a new thread around your IFR GPS question to ensure you get plenty of responses. I can't wait to hear what people say myself.

[Marauder]

Thanks for the tips guys. I'll experiment and report back. We're socked in today, hopefully Friday.

I'm planning to upgrade the panel with a IFR GPS after annual. I've been told by a CFI friend that the new Garmin units (touch screen) have nothing over the tried and true 430/530 and that they are actually harder to deal with when turbulent. Do any of you have any experience with them?

Doug -- I agree you may want to start a thread in the avionics section to get everyone to respond. BTW - I'm the guy trying to console Brett on his poor decision to sell his Mooney

I have a 650, a little experience with a 530. The touchscreen is a non issue. Why? Because you can use the buttons to get to most things.

The 430/530 series is rock solid and proven. It is also a previous generation product. If I were going to spend money upgrading your plane, I would look at the 750, 650 or the new Bendix King 770. I'm looking at the 770 as my second radio.

Here is a video of my plane with a 650 and the Aspen hardware. http://youtu.be/o-B_9SzekTo

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[Marauder]

By the way, it was really turbulent the day I made that video...

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[Hank]

All Mooney's I've flown with only one or two people aboard, I keep the nose trim a needle or two above the takeoff trim mark.  When full at gross weight, that's when the takeoff trim seems to be correctly marked.

 

-Seth

 

That matches my experience exactly.

[thinwing]

careful of the ifr departure out of Heber...it requires more climb abilty than I think a 201 has.

[dfgreene61]

Don't think I'd ever be brave enough to fly IFR into (8,200 min) or out of Heber.  I consider it a VFR only airport, and a friendly place to be.  KPVU is the place to go when the need arises.

 

That double Aspen setup is absolutely awesome.  I covet thy panel!