teethdoc Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 On 1/21/2014 at 7:47 PM, Jeff_S said: TeethDoc, I'm curious why you are shopping for an engine at all. I went back to your first thread on this, and all you say is that you are nearing TBO. Admittedly, if it truly is the original engine from a 1977 J and it is just now hitting 2000 hours, that's not a lot of use. But what is it about the engine that is failing? What specifically are you addressing by looking at new/reman/overhaul opportunities? The only reason I ask is just to make sure you've considered the concept of reliability-centered-maintenance rather than just pure TBO. If you read the literature (lots from Mike Busch, John Deakin and others) there is a strong argument for ignoring TBO and only dealing with engine issues as they arise. So if your engine is otherwise doing fine but just has some years on it, that's no reason to swap it out. Of course, if you ARE seeing maintenance problems and have determined that a new engine is the best solution, fine...it's just that you never mentioned them so I wanted to at least get this thought out there for you. My plan was to fly it way past TBO. A prop strike deemed otherwise. Instead of having it repaired per the AD, I'm going to go with a factory reman. Quote
philiplane Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 In your case the factory OH or reman will get you the latest updates, that you will NOT get aftermarket. No matter which option you choose, you get far more new parts than you would expect. When you exchange you get roller tappets, and the roller tappet engines have new cases automatically, so that's a $6000 upgrade. I have an IO-540 Cherokee Six engine in my shop now. The customer elected to send his original 1976 engine in for OH, and in return he got a new case, new crank, new fuel injector lines, flow divider, pumps, mags, all new accessories, induction tubes, etc. I think he got his data plate back and maybe the accessory case. Everything else is brand new, even the flywheel. Yet he only paid about $3000 more than for any of the popular shop overhauls. As far as support goes, I have seen Lycoming step up to the plate even for engines well out of warranty. Especially for metal issues and oil leakage. Go straight to the Lycoming regional rep for problems in or out of warranty. Quote
N601RX Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/5/2014 at 10:40 PM, teethdoc said: My plan was to fly it way past TBO. A prop strike deemed otherwise. Instead of having it repaired per the AD, I'm going to go with a factory reman. Sorry to hear that. Was it just a simple prop strike or other damage also? Quote
teethdoc Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 4:14 PM, N601RX said: Sorry to hear that. Was it just a simple prop strike or other damage also? Simple prop strike. I did not even know I had hit the prop until I was preflighting to fly home. It was a crappy day for sure. Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:27 AM, philiplane said: As far as support goes, I have seen Lycoming step up to the plate even for engines well out of warranty. Especially for metal issues and oil leakage. Go straight to the Lycoming regional rep for problems in or out of warranty. Ask Byron and Becca about Lycoming's support with their expensive new engine that is making a lot of metal... 1 Quote
mike_elliott Posted February 7, 2014 Report Posted February 7, 2014 Continental offers rebuilds on Lycs also. I just met roger gradle, manager of the factory service center, and can't say enough good about him and his organization. It is an option to consider! Quote
mike_elliott Posted February 7, 2014 Report Posted February 7, 2014 Continental offers rebuilds on Lycs also. I just met roger gradle, manager of the factory service center, and can't say enough good about him and his organization. It is an option to consider! Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 7, 2014 Report Posted February 7, 2014 I'm not sure why someone would willingly want Continental to do their valves, though! I ultimately chose Barrett Performance Engines to rework my cylinders and balance the rotating parts. They have a fancy Sardi valve machine among their impressive tool collection. PIREP to come down the road... Quote
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